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good times. Good times. Nice. And on that note let's get into this though. We're in a, we're in a, I can't even talk boots and pants too late. I didn't do my exercises, suits and pants.
And we should get into this boots and pants. I always thought that was the funniest word. What coffee are you drinking today?
I think it's some Sumatra from Highland coffee. I know where I'm at. Coffee is here.
There, there are a few of them here.
Yeah, there used to be one. No, just the one, just one. There was more Highlands. There was more right. What am I thinking of? What's the other coffee shop? Hi honey brothers. Hi, new
brothers. So that's my bad, Billy. And there's 18 honey brothers in the Louisville. Metro here. Excuse
me. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm drinking the pod coffee, but from Hawaii and be I guess I got to show this.
Yeah, this thing here, if you want to get some good Hawaii pod coffee comes with the little things. I don't know why.
So you do the Keurig
then. Yeah. This is a Keurig. I used to not, but I've just gotten incredibly lazy and a gotcha. The issue I had with Keurig was like the plastic cups or whatever.
So on these are using like like a biodegradable thing. So that's wonderful. Yeah. Save the environment or whatever.
. Yeah. Just knowing that I'm going to drink at least six or not six, three real cups of coffee, not measuring cups, which would equate to probably six. Since I know I'm going to I'm going to drink that much coffee and then my wife's going to drink about that much coffee.
It just makes sense for us to make the full pot every day. Yeah.
Yeah, I was doing the French press for awhile, and then it's just so many things. And then having to clean the thing and, it's just,
you're setting yourself up for, a solid 12 minutes of work.
Yeah. It's a lot.
Hopefully it'll give me the caffeine stimulus to get in there with the brush and all that stuff out.
I've been listening to some other podcasts too here recently. And I've learned something about structured water. Have you heard about this? No. So it's effectively like
these where you just
add salt to it, not these, like these coffee, coffee roasters are the ones that have made it more popular because otherwise it just sounds woo.
But effectively these coffee. roaster has found out that structured water makes the coffee taste better. And so structured water is effectively like what happens to water when it's like going down a stream? Something happens to the molecules like when it's going through the rocks down the stream, like the way that it forms together with electrons, whatever.
I don't know, I'm not a scientist, but supposedly just the fact that it's moving over these things. And then coming back together somehow makes it actually tastes better. So there are actually like structured water filters. So I'm looking to get one. So you basically just pour water through these like marbles or something, and it's supposed to, it technically makes the water taste better.
This is like a fat, like a fact. An observable observer observable phenomenon. So we've already gotten weird in the show. And I imagine we're going to get weirder, even though I said I just wanted to go comedy, but this show is really just opening up some weird worm holes to go down.
Yeah. It is one division, which is weird.
If there were ever a topic to embrace weird. It's this one.
Yeah. Okay. So let's look at this. So we got the Jimmy woo and the Monica Rambo. Hello?
We got some connections to some MCU stuff going on and
you predicted it correctly. You,
I think I just read it on the internet and they were like, Hey, that sounds like it could be Randall park. And I was like, listen to it back. I was like, you know what? I think it is Randall park.
You were right in choosing the right internet rumor, which is
often difficult dot com. They they're brand type things. I love this. What's fun about this episode is amongst other things, but the beginning even before, before I even clicked on it. Like when I'm in the Disney plus platform and, knowing how the last episode went and then it was like, okay are we heading toward the eighties?
What kind of sitcom trope are we doing? And then seeing the title of we interrupt this program, I was like, Oh, this is going to be a whole aside kind of episode. And dig it. We're about to learn some stuff about to get some answers, some much needed answers. What are you doing over there?
So Monica Rambo technically is not a new character. We saw her what And captain Marvel as a kid though.
Yeah. Yeah. So her mother apparently started sword, which we saw for the first. So we see, we're seeing all kinds of, we got our eyes open. We got the veil lifted. Yeah,
we're getting some much needed answers. Yeah.
I think in retrospect it feels like they should have just released all four episodes at the beginning because
no, I think, the intrigue keeps you coming back.
Yeah. But I think some people were just bored.
I don't know. That's on them. That's on them. That's on them. Yeah. The way the episode started with Monica coming back from
Yeah. Whew. I was like, wait, what is happening? This is a very interesting, Oh my God.
That was rad. Yeah. Yeah. It took me a second to figure out what was, I was like, what? Wait what's happening. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Cause at first I thought maybe she was being like,
I thought it was having something to do with getting kicked out of Westview, but
no, a flashback. Yeah. Here's
I get it, the newest Spider-Man movie they cemented that the world is calling it. People who got blipped for five years, the blip. How is it not the snap? That's what happened.
Yeah. He snapped his finger snap. He, it. Yeah. He didn't have his fingers. All these people got. Yeah. All these people got for five years. No, they got snapped. Yes. Snapped away. And they got snapped back. Come on. That's a better word. It's a better word. I feel and is that something that the MCU once Sony, so take the lead on, they're going to let Sony name the five-year gap in half of the population's lives.
I don't think that's right. You're not going to let Sony make that call. But continuity again,
it maybe in Sony unit, in the Sony universe, it's called the blip and in the Marvel universe, it's the snap, but they call it,
but they're calling it the blip. So they're agreeing upon it. They're saying they're calling it the blip.
I got to thinking about the ramifications of this and how EFT up it is that the world is so messed up because. Of iron man, Tony Starks, selfishness, wanting to save his kid.
like everything is wrong because he wanted to save his kid. But that's the only reason any of this happened.
So you're saying what they should have done was used the stones to go back in time, five years.
They could have went back in time. He could have snapped it into the normal reality instead of whatever. Yeah. Yeah. There were different.
Snap it back to the five years prior. Yeah. Yeah.
Just snap it right back.
Yeah. Yeah. The time stone. Yeah. Yeah. He did all that to save his daughter and he ends up dying too. So it's I don't know, man. And if you have that power, can't you save yourself? What? They never really, if they tried to explain it as radioactive or whatever,
There the idea that, yeah, you only get one shot at it. If you're not to somebody as strong as Thanos was able to do two. And he pretty much was one of the strongest people ever, so maybe captain Marvel could have gotten one.
Yeah. I feel like captain Marvel could have got you sees him pretty much invincible.
She probably could have. Yeah, she probably could have just kept it, yeah,
got one, but then he was pretty much out of the mix for the rest of the movie. Yeah. Not completely, just like he might've, he might, he could have gotten
second one. Maybe I sound insensitive because but if so many people's lives are going to be just totally f-ed up, Like rent to save your kid I'm around.
Maybe I would do. I would probably do the same thing.
No. Yeah. If I had a child, I would want to do everything in my head, not snap them out of existence.
It's a lot though. With all the issues and, there's like support groups for the snap or the blip.
Yeah, no, everybody's going to need some therapy.
It's going to take at least, I think, 10 years to get even close to normal. And then, you got the situation with Monica and her mom, she gets flipped back and Oh, sorry, your mom died two years ago. Or three years ago. You were gone for two years, that your mom was around.
The nurse handed her the exposition that we, the audience needed, but I feel like if that was really the nurse and that shit was happening, she would be freaking out because people were popping up. You know what I mean? Cause they were just popping up at
that time. It was definitely like a convenient conversation.
It was necessary for the story. You can't just have like total madness. If yeah. If total madness had happened, there would be no reason to show it to us, the audience. Cause that's just what we would.
And maybe there was a little bit of time before she found a doctor or whatever, but still, it seems like a, not like a nuthouse, people just appearing out of nowhere.
Okay. Did you ever read the stand?
Yes. I think when I was much younger and I don't remember hardly anything except, Randall flag and a virus.
One of the, there was like a chapter on the people who didn't die from the virus. They just died from all of the. Systems of the world running no longer running.
So you've got like a little kid who like falls in a well and nobody's around to hear him or something like that. Like that kind of thing. So it made me think this made me think of that because how many people, in Avengers end game, you've got the kid on the bike. Who's probably 12.
So that means, when the blip happened, he was seven. So his most formative years are happening with half the world's population being gone. And, does that mean one of his parents was gone, whatever, what happens to like you got? What if, mom got blipped?
Dad moved on after three years, found new mom and then. And then I'm sure there was
a lot of that happening there had to be.
And then w and then luckily Monica was sitting when she got blipped. What about people who were like sitting in a car or sitting in a car and then that car isn't in that place anymore?
Yeah. When it five years later, do they, did they get blipped back in a seated position? In the middle of a highway, they seem
to all come back safely. I think that might've been part of, Tony Stark's wish because you didn't see anybody, you didn't see anybody coming back in half an, a couch or whatever, imagine that was part of his wish for them to come back safely.
No, this was a, this was that wasn't Tony's snap. That was Hawk snap.
So I'm sorry. Excuse me, hoax. Now. I imagine he wished everyone to come back safely.
Yeah. Yeah, cause what if you're on a plane and then now you're at 30,000 feet up in the air and that plane is no longer up there and then you're just falling.
Yeah, that would be a pretty
catastrophic, here's an easy way for the, for this universe to break is if you believe. The earth is spinning this fast and going around the sun this fast and all this thing this fast, then you're in a totally different location than,
You're just blew my mind, man. Yep. Yeah. Oh yeah. So yeah, Hulk needed to be very specific in his thoughts about bring everybody back safely to an approximate place. Where they were five years ago. Relative to the earth. Yeah.
That's why that logic,
we can't just Willy nilly be like, all right, bring everybody back.
Boom. Nope. You can't do that. You got to think it through.
I think this is where all of that breaks down and that's why just our logic that we were raised with is so broken.
It's, it's the genie problem of, you Make-A-Wish, but you don't it's. Yeah. And think it through it's like the movie, but dazzled, starring Brendan Fraser.
All right. So we got Monica she's back she's she goes back to work at sword, which her mom created way to go. Maria.
Maria. Yeah. Rambo.
Rambo. Yeah. And then random guy becomes the boss and evidently there's a little bit of maybe perceived friction there. Not sure. And then and then she gets sent on this mission to work with the FBI out in New Jersey.
And here's what I found interesting about this that never gets explained. He initially brings it up as a missing persons.
Yeah. Somebody went missing. Yeah, it got weird. It didn't explain a few things. Like they didn't freak out and like when the card disappeared, but they freaked out when the the drone disappeared.
So that was great. No, . I was wondering about that with the cops, that the quote unquote East view cops. And I think on second watch, I think they just turned their car around and drove the other way.
No, they just drove into it and
disappeared. Did they drive into it? He talks about them, not Oh, I see it.
Not wanting. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe they just turned around and drove away. But either way they just like that edit was weird. Like they didn't
even address it. They did not address it. They did not address it at all. And
The sign was right there. That could have been like, what about this sign that says West view.
So obviously those guys are mind games, but you know what? My favorite part of this scene was when Jimmy walks up and does the magic trick to pull his business card out, did you?
I didn't catch it. That's cool. He's just made it a appear. Yeah.
I, yeah, he just he's just like hand flips and then is like Jimmy woo.
FBI. And cause in the ant man, he was learning magic. I was like this, see, this is the type of stuff I'm looking for here. That made me so happy. To the point where I even, I stopped rebound it three seconds to watch it again. Cause I was just so thrilled by that. That's always fun.
So assuming the cops didn't drive into the Boyd of Westview and they just turned around. That makes more sense. Why, but here's the thing. So Monica, not Monica. Wanda wa this is one division after all Juan does in sphere of influence is not just inside of this dome. So it's even her reality bubble is even affecting.
People outside of it. Which is more awesome and more down my weird philosophy thing. And I don't want to go there now, but what's going to happen to them. They set up camp right outside of this thing. So are they all going to get mind wiped at some point? I
Wouldn't that be a mess or wild because these guys have driven through Westview before now. They are part of the mind wipe. I hope that
gets explained because that could be like a really big hole, like plot hole there.
the, if they set up right outside of this and then don't get mind wiped, that's weird.
Like they should all get mine wipe. Oh, this is just easy for you. What are we doing here?
I did like how the bubble. Looks like TV, static. Oh yeah. That like just tying that all together. Yeah. That, that, that feels nice. And then yeah, Monica gets sucked in after her drone disappeared.
Yeah. Her drone looks like this. It looks totally different than the drone. That's the drone looks like the toy I have when I was a kid or. But toy, I wanted, when I was a kid, which is like a rumor control helicopter type thing, before drones were a thing I used to have a, I had a remote control race car, but I'd zip around.
And that was so much fun. When the world, like, when everything was possible, and me and my dad and my pops, we've got the got the race car at the hobby store. Traveled around crashing into some walls, had to get another one.
Those things were too what's the shelf life on those.
Yeah. The shelf life on those is not long.
They were expensive and delicate. They had bumpers,
so the controls, the steering controls. They're not up to par you,
it, you turn it. It's just,
yeah, it's just way over compensated. It's a yeah. That they want you to wreck that thing. You don't want the pieces to yeah.
You got to buy another one. And the same thing with these drones, you can get a drone at Walmart for 50 bucks or whatever, and then all of a sudden it's on the roof of your house. Guess we've got brand new drone.
So this drone here actually tells us, it looks retro anyway, but it gets even more once it goes into.
The wander world is that we're calling it the Wanda level. So yeah, that's
call it one does vision.
That's great. You should write that down.
Yeah. Tell them about it.
Send them an email. Yeah, and the sword logo too. That's interesting, it's like a sword in a dome
or a sword in a, B, a
P and a V Oh, okay. Come on. Get you, man.
Here's what I'll say. It's the sword represents a male and a circle represents a female. So it's a very balanced logo.
What are you going to do? Oh, and so it stayed in color, but it transformed. So this is something that, so when whatever goes into Wanda's vision turns into something else that kind of matches the world's she's in, although not a hundred percent. So it's not right. It's not full control, but
It's something to make it fit ish finish.
So it looks more like a helicopter in the 1960s. Lands in her yard. Yeah. And less like a video drone with a camera on it.
Oh, Darcy's back. Isn't that exciting? Oh my gosh. Yeah. So excited. So we get like three, like Marvel character connections,
I was not expecting to see Darcy and was super thrilled. When she shows up in the van. That's great. That's awesome doctor. Now, congratulations on your degrees. You're a big deal.
It's been, I hope you paid off your student loans. I hope you got it. Yeah. I hope this job pays good. Yep.
Yeah, it turns out now she's the one with the little sword diary at the end of the first two episodes or whatever.
So now we know who that is. The sword diary. Yeah. She's got her little like
her watching the show. Yeah. Yeah. She's watching the
show taking notes. Yeah. So now we know who that person is. We know what is up. We know what's up. We finally know 80% of what. Yeah.
Okay. Wanda's vision is revealed as being a television show broadcast in background microwave, radiation.
Yes. Where she is has trapped the town. And then the other big reveal is the, beekeeper's not a thing. It's not a thing. Yeah. The beekeeper was a red herring. Communism was a red herring the whole time.
Yeah, the beekeeper, he's not really beekeeper. He's got the hazmat suit he's
He goes through Johnny sword agent. He
goes into the Wanda vision and he turns into something that would be semi appropriate for what's going on there.
And then his little tether, the end of his tether turned into a jumper up. Yeah, that was great. What an interesting choice. Yeah. Yeah. Very creative.
Yeah. Fun. That's
fine. It's just fun. I think it's more fun than anything. They've been the shot originally that it was so creepy and scary. And now you realize no, it's just Wanda. Yeah.
Yeah. Tangent time. Let's do it. Have you jumped rope lately?
I, about a year ago before the before the pandemic.
Yeah. I went into I did. Have you heard of nine round? No.
So it was like,
it's like a gym where it's a kind of kickboxing inspired gym where you just, you do a round of workouts for I don't know, seven minutes, three minutes or something on one thing. And then you go to the next thing and the next thing gotcha.
So you'd punch a bag and punch another bag and kick a thing. And then, you jump rope is one of the rounds. So I jumped roped at nine round, maybe year and a half ago. And that white
jump roped or jump rope jumped roped. Is it double. What is the past tense? I did the jump roping.
I did the jump roping. You did some jump roping, and then I punched some bags and then I punched some more bags and hit another thing and kicked and stretched and whatever, and almost died because was totally out of shape. And then I went into this high intensity thing. I think I made it around six, maybe seven.
I think I got the round seven, but I like half did it. And then I was so dying out of breath that before I got around eight, I just, I had to go sit down. I thought I was going to die. I felt like I was going to puke. I was sweating everywhere. That was nuts. I think. I think it's a good thing.
They went out of business because I couldn't do it again.
It didn't work. No, there, their business model works, but there was a pandemic yeah. So you don't want to go, you don't want to go punch a bag that somebody else just punched and breathed on, so that's one of those things where we're really worried about germs and they had to shut down.
I busted out my wife's jump rope probably, or no, probably nine months ago, 10 months ago, something like that. I was doing like the treadmill pretty hard. And a buddy of mine was like, Oh man, I'm doing jump rope now. And that's like my number one source of cardio. And I was like, okay, let me try that out.
And he was like on the phone with me talking to me. Wild jump roping, jump jumping rope. Now jump roping either way. He was, he jumped
rope. He was jumping roping, but I tried to call you the other day too at, after I had done some pushups and I couldn't, I could barely breathe. Yeah. And that was after, that was like two or three minutes after.
So how is he doing this?
Like, yeah. So I'm like GIF, how are you? Okay. So if he's having a conversation, then it can't be that bad. So I was like let me just, grab, Oh, wife's got a jump rope. Let me go out in the backyard and jump some rope for, 15, 20 minutes, not trying to do anything like.
I'm not trying to go for an hour, just trying to go for just, get in a quick break, a sweat. I made it like three minutes and I was ready to die. I was like, I have to lay down on the cold concrete and catch my breath. And I, I had I was like, all right this will take a little time.
And that'll be nice. And it was done toast. And I was like, Oh, now I gotta like. Do something else to get in my workout minutes and that was not it. One out of 10 would not recommend ILS until you get good at it. I don't have the time and energy to do.
We should have a good chunk of new listeners here and welcome new people. Yeah. Thanks for listening. We really appreciate all the. The guys coming over from some other podcasts. We would appreciate that and yes. To stick it out. Cause we, occasionally we say something entertaining
sometimes who knows.
Yeah. And that's
yeah. Yeah, so beekeeper, not a real thing. Just a hazmat guy who got transformed. So turns out the question was, does. Does the Wanda bubble extend past the ground? Does it go subterranean? It turns out yes, it does. Yep. Yep. And then pretty much sets us up for, I think Wanda's the bad guy
it's starting to look that way.
Yeah, she's just taken over the whole. The whole thing to to cope. It seems like she's just coping. She's living the life with vision that she wants to live instead of instead of that one.
Oh, my goodness that freaked me out, bro.
This is the this is for those of you just listening.
This is an image of vision with a hole in his head where the mind stone used to be.
all grayed out and his eyes are great out. Yeah, it's totally
trippy. Yeah. Yeah, when that flash I had a whole moment of just no, thank you. So then, that. That makes me think is his Wanda like completely powering him or.
Is it still just her version of him? Like how much autonomy does. Yeah. Is
that like his empty vessel? Like still there? Is it like leftover
parts of Jarvis? Is she just controlling him like a puppet or is she bridging the gap between alternative programming? Jarvis's programming. Yeah, because it's
Yeah. What's weird about, so far we've watched this and it really seemed like vision has his own autonomy. This would imply the opposite, but if for some reason there's a little bit of Jarvis in there, our vision programming in there that just makes you wonder, what is this really?
What's what he's walking around as he walking around as this vision with no mind stone. And he's just he's still vision, but.
Yeah, like every time he's changing to like is like Paul Bettany looking self, is that wander, influencing the people who see him. Cause I don't think it's him
Actually transforming. He's really this guy with a hole in his head
walking around. Yeah. And just what everybody sees is whatever version Wanda wants them to see at that time. Yeah.
That makes sense. Obviously we're learning that like her influence is even stronger than we thought, because not only is she basically bringing vision back at it, To like maybe yeah.
Maybe, but like people outside of the bubble are influenced. And then when things come into the bubble, they're automatically influenced by her power. Her power is is wild. It's really well.
Yeah. Geraldine literally got sucked in
yeah. Sucked in and transformed.
Yeah. Yeah. And then the beekeeper, he transformed, but I feel like mentally.
I think he was still, he probably still was on his sword mission.
Yeah. Yeah. Mentally he probably was. And then I imagine since he rewind time or whatever, she kicked him back out of the hallway cam what happened to that
guy? Yeah. We don't really see him get the result out. Yeah. Yeah. Weird shit. And
Michelle and I were talking about Wanda vision for so what we're going to do here is we're going to talk about how w I don't know how to relate this to reality, other than dunno, I don't know. I don't know what
you were trying to say.
Use your words. You're trying to say we should relate this to our real life somehow. I don't have one for this.
Oh, yeah, no. You said something earlier about about the Mandela effect. Oh,
that's where I was going to go.
bro. Yeah. So if Wanda has control over other people has retroactively influenced their memories. So they're seeing East view instead of West view. This is . A similar situation where that people are having, that are experiencing the Mandela effect.
So to catch people up to speed, can you explain them Vanderhall effect?
Cause I basically there's a what we think of as a. Maybe social consciousness has an idea of what a certain thing is, and it turns out like we're wrong. I, the easiest obviously the easiest way to relate it would be with Nelson Mandela and where the idea comes from is a certain Oh, a large group of people thought Nelson Mandela was dead.
And then he got released from prison and people were like, Oh, that guy's still alive. We all thought he was dead. And it makes people question, reality. I think that the next most famous version of that is the the Bernstein bears. Yep. Which if you go back, I think everyone in my childhood knew them as the Bernstein bears.
Yep. And if you look at the book, it is actually the Berenstain bears. And we were all just saying it wrong. So basically it's the monopoly rules, not really rules of free parking. Here's the deal parking. You're not supposed to get the money
in the pot. They're telling us, they're telling us Ben that we remembered it wrong, but how can we be?
How can so many people be remembering it wrong? You know what I'm saying? And this is where all of this might actually be what's going on. Wanda vision might be explaining what's happening. We all have like different reality bubbles and we're connected and we influenced each other as reality bubbles and me and you, we remember the Bernstein bears we might be in the same bubble are connected, whereas somebody else remembers Berenstain bears and they're in a whole nother reality.
Like literally like a parallel dimension.
And so the idea, yeah, we, we were all in a dimension where it was the Bernstein bears and. Then something some, so there was a deja VU in the matrix, the catwalks bikes, and they fixed it and changed it to S T a N at the end. Do you do you remember?
I think part of the problem could just be, I don't remember the commercials. Were there commercials for like toys for the Bernstein bears? Were there commercials for like their books? We all had
the book, right? Our new
of the book. I couldn't read them. But why are we all, attention to the AI or AI.
Do you remember? Do you remember the monopoly guy having the monacle?
Yeah. It never happened. He never had a Monaco. Never. Let's
look it up . And what's the other big one? Chick-fil-A remember it used to have a K.
No, you don't remember that. Having Monica. Monica is a big one. Yeah. Never happened.
looks like your mind melted.
Yeah, man. I'm seeing pictures of him with the Monaco and without it, with it. Yeah. But it's a is this a Mandela effect? Is what, they're what they're saying. So yeah, maybe we just took Mr. Peanut's monocle and gave it to. The monopoly,
man, but why is it that they're they have to explain.
You see what I'm saying? Like all of these results that your search results they're telling, they're giving you the rationalization. Why did they have to give us the rationalization? Why can't we. Figured
out ourselves. Oh no. Nobody's saying that. They're just, I'm just seeing Mr. Peanut pictures and thinking, Oh, he has the top hat and the monocle and the cane.
So like essentially they're they're an incredibly similar character. Like they both have a top hat. They both have a cane.
Do you remember that? The monopoly piece, the top hat. Isn't that gone now? Like one, one of them did some of them not like it never, like there's a monopoly piece that never happened to like we're in a nother reality.
I'm also seeing the pictures of is some activists. Who dresses up like the monopoly man and sits in the background when people are testifying wherein like finance people are testifying on like the Hill and stuff. And that is hilarious. That dudes, I don't know if that's if what that dude does is good or bad, but I think it's hilarious or people should dress up like the monopoly, man.
Yeah. So it's equated to a false memory in Wikipedia. So they've already declared it a false memory for you but how can it be like such a wide,
How did free parking. Become a thing. Like it's not in the rule book anywhere that when you land on free parking, you should get the money in the middle. But people all over the country use that as a rule of monopoly blowing on the cartridge doesn't work for an Nintendo, but yet everyone does that.
Everybody did that. Why is that? Because we're all simple, a simple people with lizard brains. Okay.
Okay. I'm looking now as cause. Okay. Curious,
George curious list.
Gee. Oh, wow. Oh my God. Do you remember him? What the tail?
I don't know. I don't think so. Did he have a tail? I don't know.
It depends on what reality you're in.
Let's see. What else? Yeah I very specifically remember monopoly, man, having a
Okay. So I typed in Mandela effect into the Google, right? Yeah. The very first thing to pop up is 40 Mandela effect. Examples from good housekeeping dot. com And then when you click, I clicked it and there's Goodhousekeeping.com who, why them? Why are they the arbiters of the Mandela effect? Why are you the top rating on Google?
What did good housekeeping.com do they
just have more the. SEO juice. Yeah. Okay. The articles garbage is out there. Yeah.
Yeah. This monkey. I do not remember
Luke. I am your father. Oh yeah. That wasn't. Yeah. He never says that. He don't
You don't remember Luke. I am your father.
Remember people saying it, but I don't remember it from the movie. Okay.
So you're like half men. Don't like it affected
you. Remember smokey, the bear.
not smokey. The bear smokey bear.
Oh really? Yup.
Two guys Googling stuff.
Two guys, Google and
Whoa. Three PO had a silver leg. You don't remember that three people had a silver leg? No, I don't remember that.
But the Flintstones.
When did the, apparently people misremember the challenger exploding really
like the dates.
The number of States do remember that there were 52 States were being taught that
No. I've always noted as 50.
Why are you only half Mandela?
I don't know, man.
Do you remember sex in the city?
I thought it was sex and the city. Yeah. Yeah, it did.
It is now Oh, for breeze was spelled differently. Yeah, for sure. How do you spell for berries?
F E and then breeze.
How do you spell breeze?
B R E Z.
Okay. Look it up. Google it type in for breeze.
No. Is there only one? Yep. In the middle.
Yep. But a lot of us remember or a lot of us remember the two weeks.
Oh, Kit-Kat I remember that one.
There was no space between it. Yeah. That's just,
there used to be a hyphen. Remember the hyphen
brands and logos. I feel,
I know, but they're saying that they're saying there's my ever been a hyphen. Oh, the Volkswagen logo. That one changed on me. The Volkswagen
was that the Volkswagen was what's the deal with that. The VW.
Yeah, the VW like it. Yeah. It was like one thing.
And now it's like disconnected or whatever. They used to be like a one interesting thing. That one changed on me. What's this about big
I just, this is fascinating to me because a lot of us had the same memories, oh, life is like a box of truck chocolates.
Yeah. I think there's a difference between like us, like having a firm belief in what a thing was. And then something like foot breeze, I think is just pretty innocuous of just okay, we all understand that it's probably. Spelled this way, but nobody's paid enough attention to foot breeze to really look at the logo.
Does that mean or Kit-Kat
Here's the thing about this.
Maybe it's the childhood aspect. That is because Bernstein bears a children's book. Monopoly is a game that you play, as a kid, primarily. So maybe it's that
white out. No, this is new, you know how whiteout is spelled?
Oh my God,
how we thought it was just white and out.
Yeah. It's w I T
no way. I don't know. Okay. That's new. Like this shit is weird, man.
Yeah. But that's that's a brand, so I don't know. It's it's calling every brand of tissues, Kleenex.
How many times did I actually buy white out brand of whiteout? And how many times do I just buy off brand? You know what I mean? I didn't buy that much to begin with a, scratched it out, like a normal person. The other thing is that like a poor person, I have white out money. I certainly don't have the time to let it dry.
I'm just saying, man, something is not what it seems, like the world can't be what they tell us. It is that there's too many of these weird things.
Or we just have crap memories.
We obviously have crap memories, but there are certain things that stick with you, like Berenstain bears, like why would that be Berenstain like it's just. It's stuck with you. Even now that you know that it's Berenstain, does that change your opinion of it or do you just think you misremembered?
If that's your strongest
one, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's probably the most yeah, the most prominent one. Yeah, I think I honestly, I don't know.
Cause you know there's a couple of different things. Not being able to read. So having those books read by somebody else at the time,
but if they were reading it, they red Baron, steam bears, you know what
I'm saying? And that, and it could be a thing where, were there commercials on TV where it was said a certain way?
Also us being in the South could that have. Some sort of so
many people do. It's not
just, I know it's I know it's not just us. I know it's just us, but I'm just saying there could be some, there could be some regionality to some of it.
Just this brings up the idea that reality is much more fluid.
It's just much more like it's possible. It's possible. That shit just changed and that shit is weird and scary, but at the same time it opens up a whole world of possibilities, or
There's like a Wanda out there changing
things. Yeah no. I'm saying like, or it could just be that we.
Misremembered and the collective consciousness, misremembered a thing, like Luke, I am your father, some in some movie somewhere, somebody said, Luke, I am your father as a joke, as a reference to star Wars. And then that took on a life
of its own. Think about how many times we watched star Wars when we were kids.
I remember rewinding that tape and playing it over and over like how could that be? But and that being one of the most pivotal scenes in the movie, and then it not being Luke, I'm your father now. It's what, know, I'm your father.
Yeah. You know how many times when I was 12, did I watch Tommy boy and.
Chris, Farley's got his mouth and a fan going, Luke, I am your father. Like how many times am I remembering that instance?
So you're saying it overwrote your memories. And if and then this is even scarier, though. If entertainment or what we consume media wise can just overwrite our memories. That's getting into scary.
Scary land. Yeah, no our memories are fallible. Like I thought I had a memory of a birthday party when I was, whatever three or four. And it turns out that memory was completely constructed around a picture that was in our house, and it's just the human memory is not, is incredibly fallible.
That's why like witness testimony. Doesn't always do great.
And this is how somebody was able to control an entire country and lead them to, whatever genocide or whatever it was, all these terrible things. It's just from the media, just from the TV. So you gotta be careful what you're watching, I think, or at least try to zoom out a little bit,
oh yeah. W gosh, there's so much wrapped into identity. Wrapped into that kind of stuff that people have a hard time stepping back. We should all step back just to test it. Take a step, take a deep breath step. Hey, breathe with me. Let's just be alive together for a second.
Yeah. Let's just feel it.
Everything's all right. And I know our new listeners are so excited to be here, all this. Yeah,
I got a weird one. You got a weird one.
I feel like Wanda vision, just Aiden. It forces us to go into these weird places because it's so freaking weird. And it's like it's just want to talk about it and be funny about this is weird.
And like these concepts exploring them in our own reality is also It's not past me at all. And when we have things like the Mandela effects that affect a lot of people, it's that makes you wonder is there like a Wanda or a device or something controlling, influencing the minds of everyone?
Like what is happening? Like how is this even put together? You know what I mean? Is it. Is it what they say it is? Yes. Okay. Yep.
Yep. Yeah, it is. Yes. I
don't know. Not that you don't question reality. Oh,
nah, no, not really. Not really. I don't have that kind of time. We're on a spinning
ball. Her LinkedIn space, of course. . Convenient. Sure.
Whatever. Haven't read up on, on the speeds. Enough scientists have come together to form a consensus. I ain't got that. I'm not, I don't have the time to, to debunk that.
So I'm just going to go, Hey, you know what? You've devoted your life to that just so much good on you. Good on you. You and I can, do you know what I can do? I can help you open it. Trampoline slash amusement park. That's my area. You heard it here. First look, we all got our part to play and I've spent a good amount of years in the indoor.
You have an incredible, you have an incredible amount of business acumen that I didn't realize you had. And , I don't,
I'm very impressed. Oh, thanks man. Yeah. I didn't know, like I. I thought I was out here in this, like trying to entrepreneurial, whatever came and say the word myself and an entrepreneur.
It turns out Ben himself is quite the quite the business businessman. Business is currently
unemployed. Is that?
Yeah. And on that note if you find this interesting at all or. Or of any value make sure you let somebody know let's if you think
your mind. Oh my gosh.
Hey, tell a friend and they tell two friends
and they tells you a little bit. They don't question their reality too much, but you think there may be watching too much too much news, maybe having zoom out a little bit.
Hey, zoom out. Hey, do it. Yeah,
boy, I don't know.
Just, my life so much better right now. Like we've been taking we've been taking some like super high quality, expensive vitamins, and like my teeth, they were like getting really soft and like getting to the point where I felt like they were cracking, and I felt like they were going to fall out, kind of thing.
And we got some like a calcium, but from food, like from algae or whatever. Interesting. And if you take the, you take calcium with vitamin D and magnesium, your body absorbs it better. And like in two days I can tell like my teeth feel stronger.
It's amazing how.
Resilient, our bodies are like the fact that my, my teeth feel stronger. My, the cavity that I know I have it doesn't bother me as much. It's just, the things they tell us about food and oil. We were talking about that earlier, like why is that? They taught us growing up vegetable.
It was so good for you, but it turns out like it's terrible. Just we're in an upside down world. So I'm saying like, and It's good to zoom out a little bit. Yeah. You wait
long enough. That thing that was going to kill you is going to save you and then it'll cycle back out at some point.
Yeah. Maybe who knows? Who knows?
I dunno what this podcast is about.
I mean that not much happened in this episode,
There was a lot of tying up some loose
ends. Here's the point of this episode is that it's a different point of view. It's zoomed out a little bit, right? Exactly. That. Yeah, exactly.
It's a w It's an interruption of your regularly scheduled program. True
Yeah. Wow. That, that, that vision image is just terrifying.
It's terrifying. . Yeah, don't leave it on that. Yeah. Leave it on that one. There we go. Hey, just watching a little TV. You are my favorite, not my favorite. One of my favorite parts was the he dead. I've been saying that for weeks. Isn't he dead?
He's dead. He died. He died. We saw that guy die. He's dead.
Yeah, they watched the same Avengers movie. We did. He's definitely.
Yeah. Yeah. And they watched the same episode of with them and they said the exact same thing that we said. Yeah. That's an excellent point. Yeah. How you still love.
So we should
talk about what do we have coming up? What is our plan here for this podcast, man?
Did you see the they got like a. They did like a little reel of what's coming up on some of the next episodes and yeah, it's it's a lot of like quick clips, like quick cuts and stuff like that.
There's going to be an eighties episode. There's it looks like there's a Halloween situation where vision is dressed up in his like old timey. And then. And then it looks like there is going to be a documentary style sitcom to the camera the office type show. That's great.
Looking forward to you. And then it also development, right? It also looks like vision and Wanda are going and get fight. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I bet. Or at least that's what they pose to us in that. Sneak beak. Okay. Yeah. So give that a watch when you get a chance out. Yeah. That's good. Yeah.
Yeah. We have more one division reviews coming and then we also have some the born yesterday flashback episode you know what it's like to be in a local band, back in the day,
You like to be in a local band circa 2003, Yeah.
The greater little full Metro areas.
Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun episode. That was really fun. Getting
to do that. Good to talk to Mike. I haven't, I've literally not talked to him since 2005 seven, something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
He seemed pretty happy. It seemed like he's doing pretty good.
Yeah. Then shout out to Mike.
She has not listened to the
podcast. Yeah. That's funny. He wants to be on the pot. Yeah. A prerequisite for, if you want to be on the podcast, you have to at least listen to one episode.
Just one don't tell us which one it's our job to guess. Yeah.
Yeah. Let's secure and then we got so we'll have some more wine division episodes coming up and I don't know, what are we gonna talk about after that?
So we got that Metallica episode, just sitting around. We got
a Metallica episode coming out. I've
been lazy. The only thing I remember is that I probably talked some smack about Lars. I think I had said Lars, isn't a good drummer. Yeah. He's a fine drummer. He's just, he plays better than me. He's better than I am a hundred percent.
We got some what else we got coming up, maybe we got some articles are gonna work, right? So don't be a stranger to a, is this entertainment.com? Me and Ben going to write some I don't know what we're going to write about, but. How are
we gonna write about something? You know what?
Let's not talk about it till already.
Oh, what else? What are we going to do after wander? We don't know
Atlanta, we don't know yet. We still got a four, maybe five episodes of one division. So
We've got some old episodes. If you haven't listened to them, we got some about
Music. We did a deep dive on hoodie and the Blowfish very important. Yeah. Super relevant. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah, we talked a little Beatles and a Pearl jam in the first episode. All of the Mandalorian. That's
what got this started.
Yeah. Our conversation would be, how did we end up starting this?
We were like, Hey let's let's talk about one of my favorite albums and one of your favorite albums and see if it's entertaining and that, so the name came about, right?
Yeah. We didn't even have a name for awhile. Yeah. Okay. Where are we? What planet are we on? This? This podcast has been sponsored by nothing. And what else?
Don't know, man. You watch anything interesting this week? Oh, yes.
It's on Netflix.
It's a show about con artists who marries people and then takes all their money. That leaves them. It sounds terrible, but that's mean it is terrible and it's mean, but you actually, it's weird because you care about all the terrible people in this film, like in this show, like they own there's an overarching, bad guy that like, has them doing it.
And that's really the main guy that like, you know, but it's it's a fun ride. It's really fun. Like it's comical. There's a lot of funny situations too that happened. Where they go back and like the guys that were conned, they all get together and to go and find the girl a conned them, yeah. So it was like a, it's a good ride. It's a lot of fun. Yeah the main chick that seduces everyone is the girl from Lucifer, the girl that
Do you ever see Lucifer? No, that's actually a fun show. I was so like, Turned off by the name that I didn't watch it forever. And then we finally watched it and was like, okay, that's, it's a good ride.
It's not bad.
Yeah. Sweet. What are you watching?
, we watched Mulana for the first time. Okay. That's good. Good fun. That was fun. Got the Nicole Shaleen. Yup. Yup. Yeah. Definitely made me, long for the beach. Cause.
January and yeah, it's freezing cold. So go into the, go into a an Island would be fun.
And then yeah great performances. That song has just been stuck in my head for Nina three days now. Okay. Watched Willow last night. Great
film. Yeah. The effects are a little,
but yeah. Yeah, there's some effects stuff and it's definitely it definitely like borrows from a lot of other like fantasy type stuff.
Yeah. It's great though. It's a fun, it's a fun. It's great. Yeah. Val Kilmer is awesome. Awesome. Yeah, everybody. Everybody's good. Everybody's good in that movie. Yeah.
It was fun. I've been listening to the McKayla Peterson podcast a lot recently. She's the daughter of Jordan Peterson.
Who's like a modern day, like philosopher, author guy. So people probably heard of him he's bad or no, he's cool. He's written some good books. But so his daughter does a podcast and she's just had some really great guests on she's had a, yeah. You remember Tucker max?
That sounds familiar.
was just like terribly crude guy that like just took advantage of so many women and then wrote about it. Blogging was like, yay.
That book. That they turned into a movie. Yeah.
C1 hell or whatever. Yeah. She interviewed him and it was a great interview. And then she is interviewing like a bunch of like health people and nutrition people, and I'm like, Oh, okay.
This is serious. This is this is very enlightening. When you find out, like there was no real. A reason to say that high cholesterol caused heart attacks. Like all of these studies have inconclusive results, actually. They're conclusive that high cholesterol doesn't equate to a higher amount of heart attacks, so it's like what, so my mind has been blown, listening to this podcast. It's pretty well. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. And any other shout outs we want to give shout out to. Shout out to Mikey for doing the doing the podcast with this.
Oh I listened to check out. . On Spotify or this orchestra? It is this that's the thing. The band, the album is called a day of ex. Mokena one. Oh, and my brother played drums on this album made it like four years ago or something like that with some dudes.
And and it's like a exreal concept piece. It's got some like Coheed and Cambria vibe to it. There's like full blown story kind of deal. And and th the guitar playing. On this album is stellar, like as
two do. And if your brother is playing drums, we know the drumming
is amazing. Yeah, it, yeah, it's great.
The guitar players just rip it apart.
So the name of the band is
D like D Y N hairline. I spell
T O Gus drought orchestra. Yeah.
Dist or cause,
I'm trying to just opiate and orchestra put together. I'm trying to pull
it up here so people can see it. This is it. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Listen to this because now I'm really intrigued because Ben's brother is incredibly talented.
He's very good. He's very
good. He's an amazing
drummer. He's sick. He's sick on mode. And he's also play some music on his own too. Do you ever do like a solo thing?
No, I don't believe so.
Yeah. Yeah, man. I was just wanting to press play on this. Is it
awesome? Oh, not, yeah, it's pretty good.
I listened to about half of it on the treadmill the other day, and then listened to the rest while I was cooking dinner. And now I'm super invested in, the plight of the city of an Arcadia.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So this is like a very. Is that what it sounds like is a sound like a,
I would put it like in some
method kind of combination.
I haven't listened to enough Coheed to really
so I don't know heavy guitars and bass and drums, very heavy. It's The dude's vocals are a little system of a down comforter, so they're harder. It's got some of that. Okay. He still sinks though, right? Oh yeah. Yeah, no, he definitely sings. Okay. Yeah, it's not it's not swelling or anything like that.
All right, cool. Yeah, shout out to Tim and to stork his strike. I can't wait to listen to this. Yeah. And also, give us a listen to the yeah, we've got the dual paradigm and we've got a, an old born yesterday page, which we'll we'll have soon you can go to listen to some old born yesterday stuff.
So all our, all of our new listeners, we're in a, there's a project called dual paradigm and a, you can listen to our song right there on the Spotify guys.
And on the way out, I think it's, I don't know what song, maybe I'll play dual paradigm. Maybe I'll play. That makes sense. I'll play the dual paradigm on the way out. And we played born yesterday on the way in that makes sense. Sounds wonderful. And thank you, Ben. Thanks for doing this episode. It's been Nikki
And hopefully we'll have the born yesterday episode up soon and thank you guys for listening. Appreciate it. If you're new to this podcast please share it with somebody you think will help out. And two other things
We'll talk to you next week and later this week.
great. All right.