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WandaVision Episode 3 SPOILER Review: What Did You Say | ITE E13 

 January 26, 2021

By  Is This Entertainment

Wandavision Ep 3 spoiler review. Less ASMR, but more restaurant rants!

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The sequence was Wanda says I was a twin. His name was Pietro. And then she's yeah, he got killed by Ultron. What did you say? And then she notices the sword logo on the necklace. She noticed her out of the re

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All right, we're recording again. Oh, my word. Welcome. Welcome. We

did it. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the is this entertainment

podcast? Okay.

Oh gosh, that's going to mess up the whole intro song.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

They've heard it. They're done with it. We need a new intro song. They've

heard it.

It's true. So we need to work on some new stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway. Sweet. So what I'll

do three, do we

want to recommend people again? And maybe that's just, maybe that's just not supposed to be in there.

Recommend a, what

if you know someone

that wants to listen to this podcast?

Be a good friend. Tell them be a good friend to us. Be a good friend of the pod. There's gotta be one person. I'm a quick, Hey, if you check this out, you

this two guys ranting about nonsense.

That's right. And you know what? Sometimes they're going to Google stuff because they're not quite sure.

And sometimes they're funny. I make assumptions.

Sometimes the wrong times. They're going to rant about pizza for five minutes.

Sometimes. Sometimes they'll be an ASMR episode.

Yep. At any rate let's share button. Hey,

before we begin, Hey man, how are you doing? How you doing bud? You doing all right? I'm all right. Good. Yeah.

As you listen to the sound of my voice. The one

division you got the monitor on where you can hear yourself.

Now do I sound

Oh, okay. Yeah, no I don't. Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine.

Can do I sound different today?

Definitely. Absolutely.

Where we just say hello into the microphone over and over again. Seven-year-old children. I tag out and I

were aspiring voiceover artists

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in your mind. Feel the power of the crystal.

I just lost. Hey, watched wonder woman again last night.

Oh yeah. New thoughts.

Yeah. No, not really. It's just, it was fun. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I would put it at a good. If the original wonder woman was a nine out of 10, but this one at a six and a half seven.

Yeah. You're too kind, sir. . No, I think you're right, man. Yeah, probably a six. Yeah. Solid six

that's. Yeah. If it was between re-watching suicide squad, Or one woman 84, I think I'd watch 84.

Yeah.

. It's the second side squad. I would put it like four and a half to five somewhere around there. If it was between Batman versus Superman.

When you take into account, something we skipped over. We glossed over it, it didn't cross our minds at the time is wonder woman taking advantage of some other dudes body.

While

yeah. No that there's definitely some consent issues going on there. Where is random attractive man's consciousness while Steve, Trevor is inhibiting him? Is he waking up, a day later being like I had, did I have sex last night? Yeah, I don't. I feel

weird.

Some weird dreams. it's just, I don't know why that didn't cross my mind at the time consent is a thing,

consent is a thing. Yup. And now that's not what we're here to talk about today. We're here to talk about Wandavision, episode three.

I like where the show is going. How about you?

Yeah, I'm really excited about the future possibility of the show and the idea that it's using old school television shows too. So what's going on inside of Wanda's mind or reality or whatever it is that's going on. It brings back some some memories for me and some feels.

But I F I have a feeling most people haven't watched these shows yet. So I, when it catches up to the the friends episodes and the things that we've seen, more recently,

it might, yeah, I'm really intrigued as to like it. Where's it going to go? Is it going to touch the world of like single cam sitcoms?

Like at the office with looking to the camera, bringing him a shaky cam stuff, like some rights and arrested development style like documentary style

but I did get it. It's moving at a quicker pace. It's not as slow burney as the first two episodes.

Quick pace though. It might've went to fast. This was like 20 minutes long this episode.

She had a nine month pregnancy in the span of 30 minutes.

Let's talk about the split level, man, you wanted to talk about the the architecture

here. Yeah. So here's the deal. This house is very similar to the Brady bunch house and they both have. This split level kind of vibe to it, but it's not three, four feet down to where it's like a split level thing.

It's three steps, like the main floor. You have the living room. Or actually it's, I think it's two steps. So really 24 inches down, you've got the living room or whatever. So it's not what you would call the second floor. So as I'm watching this, I'm thinking like, was that a thing.

Back in like the late sixties, early seventies to where they were doing these like dropdown living rooms. I realized, as I'm saying this, my mom's house has a, like the family room has a six inch dip. There is a step down into that one room, but then but I feel like this was like a thing, like this was like a fad with.

Houses in that time and I could be completely wrong. But I think about the, , in the Beatles help movie they've got like this sunken in like living room in one of the houses there. I feel like that's, that was a thing of the time. So then does that mean, like in the eighties, there were a bunch of houses having the sub floor, like completely redone to make houses.

Level again, I don't know the answer to this question and I'm probably going to end up going down like some sort of internet wormhole later, but I just wanted to bring it up. Yeah.

And my counter to this is just this house was probably on a Hill. And so they likely. Just the architecture of the Hill and

you might

be right. Your, of the house that we see in this show. And the exterior of the Brady bunch house does not show that it's on a Hill. Their backyard is flat as the day is long. It

might've been a thing. And then Astro turf grass, and then too many people Stop looking down and

and people had trips and falls in their own houses, and then they were like, this is not functional. I gotta fix this. Yeah. But then the staircase did the staircase have handrails

for this one, I don't see any handrails, and that's, what's weird about That's a new thing. I think, people not looking down well, people just looking at their phones, I think is the problem.

They're not looking where they're going.

Oh no. Okay. I just saw a picture. There are handrails, but it's definitely like that. It's like a floating staircase. Where there is there aren't walls on the other side is just a, yeah. It's just a how it's anchored. Yeah. So this might've been a similar to the Brady bunch house, which I'm looking at here.

Yeah, but there's handrails. Nevermind.

The codes, the houses have probably been updated and they're like, look, you can't be doing this. Two feet down, you're going to have somebody break an ankle in your house and they're going to see you. So we're just going to take that off the equation, especially if you have kids.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. You got to be toddlers, although it might be nice for keeping them corralled. If you've got like a crawler who can't really go upstairs yet, you just drop them down in that recess to living room. You

make an excellent point because kitchens are dangerous.

So if you can keep the kid out of the kitchen,

that makes sense. You got a clear line of sight from the kitchen, keep an eye on him. Except for that giant coffee table, gave tables rounded off. So they're not going to hit their head on a corner. True story.

Yeah.

Lord, help us. God's Wandavision gods.

I know you're trying to lead the conversation in the right way and then I just don't follow. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, Ben.

No, you're all right. Yeah. Hey, we're all doing our best here for all doing our best.

We're all doing 80% of our best. There's probably 20% out there that we could reach it, reach down deep and grab. But look, it's not that serious.

It's not it's Wandavision yeah. So the philosophical implications here, they're getting weird. It's getting weird about what reality is, what her reality is.

What you know is this the matrix in her mind or is this the matrix that she's in her mind and influencing the world that we'd see, that we touched and tastes. That's probably the wrong word to use,

touch and feel for one. I think the end of the episode with.

Geraldine getting thrown out of this physical space that has some sort of like force field around it. And then all of these like sword agents coming out, and this is not happening in Wanda's mind. Now it's obviously influenced by her mind whether or not it's completely her creation, or if it's something that's being done to her are, , I don't know the answer to that one yet, but I do think that this is a physical space and that all of these people, that are know and developed into this world of what West view is that what it's called Westlake.

Westview.

So these people are in a physical space called Westview, and these are real people, except I don't know about vision. How was his vision? Real? Or is he a figment of her mind? Because last I checked, he died.

Here's the thing, though, all of these real people are affected by Wanda's mind, they're carrying out.

I believe the wishes of Wanda to right. For the most part. So these people may or may not be real at all. Or they're like, the implications of what's coming up here is talking about Wanda's reality bubble, or like where I'm at, philosophically and theoretically, like how reality works, some things I'm starting to think about and, reality bubbles which we can talk about later.

But still this is getting weird. It's getting in the weird zone and I like it. I like it.

Oh yeah. I tell you the scene where the neighbor is trimming his hedges and then gets his hedge trimmer stuck in the hey. There he is. I forgot his character name. But he starts sawing up the block with the hedge trimmer one.

I don't know that there's a hedge trimmer on the market. And certainly not in 1968 or 72, whenever this is taking place, there's not a hedge trimmer on the market. That's going through a cinderblock like that. No. Or at least not in the amount of time. And it isn't over the course of a couple of days.

It's a little thought provoking that the fence to her house is not a fence. It's a cinder block. That's

It's prison of the mind. Yeah.

It could literally be a prison, like a physical prison, a mind prison, both things at the same time somehow. I think both. Yeah. I think that's maybe where we're going here.

So like this could all be some kind of.

This could all be some kind of what a

trick to make her have children, with all that for the children then going on before, put those ideas in Wanda's mind, so that she has children.

I'm assuming there's also the separation of Geraldine from everyone else, right?

Kathryn hahn's Hey Geraldine in there. What's up with that. She's not, she doesn't have a home and all that weird talk like, so is it a thing where, some other people have tricked Wanda , into this West view to make her have some kids and do whatever.

And Geraldine was sent in to save her, but because of. The mind games and Wanda being thrilled to be in this world with vision, maybe, she got lost in that mentally until one to brings up her brother. And that obviously triggers, something going on.

Wanda is.



One that brings it up first. Cause she says I have a twin or I had a twin. And then says his name. And then she was like, Oh yeah, he was killed by Ultron. And then it's Whoa, don't mention reality. What did you say?

This is, you get the F out of my reality.

Yeah. Which feels a lot like American politics.

Wait, what

it's like when you mentioned something that is the opposite of someone's political view, that is the respect can be the response, like a triggered response of the person who has the other view. You know what I mean?



If you're talking like in the internet space, in the internet

space and maybe even to some degree, real space with people who get triggered easily, having a sit down conversation with your uncle, Jim, who, has a different point of view about things, it can be triggering and you might yell at him and tell him to leave.

You know what I mean? It's it's interesting to see

, this version of that. I know this is not a political version or even a political discussion, but this happens in real life, right? When people that disagree with each other. And someone brings in an idea that is so they've already made their mind up about there's no conversation and there's no there's no room for allowing that into your reality so much that you reject them from your reality.

And Wanda is doing that literally here, literally. Reality bubbles, man. It's a thing. It's a thing.

Okay. All right. Yeah,

we can get back to the episode.

No, it's a reality bubble.

So reality bubble curious. This is this show is an example of a reality bubble. I think everyone carries their own.

Bubble of reality with them. What they feel like reality is what they feel like, their beliefs, their views, their paradigm, if you will they carry that with them. And in general, most things will reflect most things in their life will reflect their beliefs their own reality bubble, as they see it.

And if something tries to enter their reality bubble, that is not cohesive with it, it will be rejected. Like quickly and like this for, this is the only way I have to describe it, but it just, it's just outright rejected, you have a different opinion about the weather, if somebody is very much A climate change person, and they're really worried about carbon emissions.

And you're like what about every time I pumped my gas, gasoline drips on the concrete and that's happened forever. Why hasn't anybody fixed that? You know what I mean? If you try to make a point about something from a different angle, maybe they'll just they'll instantly reject it,

but there's there's something to be said about like the what about you could do that all day, it doesn't negate the original thought, I'm trying to. Create an example here.



When something comes from the authority . We become less inquisitive and less willing to look at alternate views because it's already been decided for us because we respect authority from going into school and having to raise our hand to ask a question, it starts there and So having a different view about any of these things becomes hard because of the way that we are taught in schools, . The big bang when we were in school, like the big bang was like not a hundred percent.

It was, it's big bang theory for a reason, I think. And but now, it's pretty much accepted. Okay. Big bang consensus. We've come to the consensus. That's where the universe started, and it's all these people are smarter than me. So I guess I'll go with that, but if you do any kind of research, there's going to be scientists that have evidence to the contrary or evidence, like different theories, you know that they're out there, it's still a theory.

You know what I mean? Am I making any sense?

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I look, I get that. There's going to be scientists out there that, might have different findings, the question becomes, yeah. You have to start looking at do these people have ulterior motives are there and that's, that's all across the board, and are there.

Are there outside forces. Pushing them to lean certain ways, who's really independent, that kind of stuff. All I'm saying,

Is like that it becomes the consensus reality and that becomes the reality that people have that are in their bubbles. And then you say no, there's actually evidence that I don't know, whatever.

Contrary con contrary, contrary, that, scientists said the universe is expanding. Scientists said, universe is contracting. There's two different theories out there, and that so one person has accepted. One thing is true and another person's accepted.

Another thing is true. And then when they talk in general The opposite thing has rejected like outright, and I think we're just seeing a literal version of that in the show. That's all I'm really getting at. I'm not trying to go,

I'm not trying to go super deep here. I'm just trying to just put the idea in that, that maybe we carry our reality is with us. That's all I'm saying, , but what I'm getting at is if you want to change your reality, the person you should be worried about is more yourself and not everyone else.

That's really all I'm getting at because your bubble affects what's around you. That's all I can say. As far as this is also just a theory, so my theory is just my theory,

yeah. All so what about this episode? Did you like.

Woo. I love your favorite part. I th I got the most weird vibes when this happened, when he just starts and his face, oh my gosh, it was so good.

I love that for a minute. I thought they had done something to his eyes. I thought maybe his eyes were like bluer, but then I rewatched that scene and it turns out no, that was just in my mind. I thought maybe he had gotten zombified, just say stellar. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Also again, that hedge trimmers not going through that concrete block



I can't state that enough.

So what's weird here. It's this is like Wanda losing a little bit of control over her bubble here. That's what I feel like. This is like she's because of the pregnancy that's going on. She's.

It's throwing

Everything out of whack because of all of our emotion that she seems to have a little bit of difficulty controlling speaking of which I also really enjoyed the the peacock.

What? Not the peacock? The, Oh, the stork. Yeah, the stork. That was a.

That was great. That was my favorite part of the stork. Was him going for the fish on the fish print of Geraldine's pants? Yeah, that was great. I was like, yes. That's the real reason he's going for those pants. Them's look like fishes.

Yeah, so that was pretty genius and, I just wonder, like, why. Like, why is the stork real? You know what I mean? Like why does it come alive?

Yeah. In my mind, I just chalked it up to that's just part of the, just goes hand in hand with all the other stuff that's going on, power going out.

Raining in the house, the pictures on the walls spinning, like it's just one more manifestation of Wanda's power's going nuts.

Yeah. But this could be like, the stork could literally be like a. Part of that outside, it could be part of outside influence or it could be just Wanda's stuff going haywire.

And these characters here are actually, they talk a little bit about what's really going on. It seems like they're trying to say it, but they can't, which is right.

So we've got the doctor who. Is going to take a trip to Bermuda, but then after the kids are born, he's like small towns have a way of not being able to get out.

That was creepy. And then you've got the Kathryn Hahn conversation of, look something's up with Geraldine. She's not one of us. These are. So there's an us versus them kind of thing. Going on with, with Geraldine, she's wearing a sword logo on her necklace. So there's something going on there, is she working for sword and everybody else is like a willing participant in this Westview experiment or are they unwilling participants who want to get out of this experiment?

Don't know the answer to that. Yeah. And also his vision real I'm still going, keep coming back to his vision, real his vision, like his vision, somebody else. Is it a Steve Trevor thing where like somebody else is brought into play vision and Wanda's on enough to just make him vision the rest of the way in her mind.

That

would

be so he could be the bad guy here. Yeah. Essentially a lot of

sense. Yeah. Or he's just some other robot that's close enough. But he also has that moment where after talking to the neighbors the first time where he goes in and talks to Wanda and he's Hey. You get the feeling that something's wrong here.

And then he sits down on the couch and they have it's like, all right, we're finally going to have the conversation and then it just edits and he's back standing up and then they redo that scene with him. Not going into that. Oh, yeah. Who buddy? Yeah. Why does control a quicker edit?

Yeah, Wanda's control on this.

Realities is pretty wild and it does seem like vision does have a little bit of autonomy because there, there are multiple scenes where he is not with her. So it does seem like he has his own

also. He's getting a little goosey, loosey goosey with throwing those powers out there. He ran over to the doctor's house.

Yes. He was in his more human form, but he ran over there. He put the doc on his back, obviously the doc knows something's up. Yeah. It's really making me

think. He realized it might really be vision because he really does have Wanda's best interest. In mind it seems yeah.

And then. When the twins are born, he also, turns himself back to his purple-ish Magento itself.

And then she starts to have the second baby, where we're believing that she started screaming like she was having another baby. And th the people in the room 10 feet away, don't notice that he's magenta. I think there's some stuff going on,

Obviously there's weird stuff going on.

This is a weird, this is a weird show. And I'm really excited about like the, what is going to be the result of this, like absolutely

because yeah, we S we still got to figure out who's. Who's actually running the show and then who is just a part of things and then is soar just observing a lot of questions, a lot of

Questions.

Yeah. Yeah it makes me think that

The ancillary characters only see what Wanda wants them to see. Except that w so it's, they're not all the same, like the doc, like the two people in the room. The doctor for the main, mainly the doctor doesn't see him as being magenta. Doesn't freak out. Like he's not that freaking out too much about even being ran a thousand miles an hour.

So he's let's walk next time or whatever, but

it's like subtle

hints, but it's not affecting him too much, not as much if it happened to us, obviously we would freak out,

he's not calling out the weird thing that's for sure.

Yeah. So is he an external character and he knows what's up.

Is he a figment of Wanda's mind are the other two characters? W why don't we know their names?

Agnes and,

Herb or her services, name herb, Agnes, and Herbie. So yeah, they seem to know something extra. Are they a figment of her mind also? Are they real? It's just getting weirder and weirder.

I think real people, I think they're real people based off of the doctor's line about. Small towns, you can't really get out of them. And then and like the sadness behind that line, the way he said it, it just made me think this is a guy who doesn't understand what his situation is, but understands that he's stuck and then the conversation.

So if he understands

he's stuck, why did he just have a plan to go to Bermuda? You know what I mean?

Because I think they're trying to live, I think they're living their lives, dives in this sitcom world. I don't think they go on pause until they're needed for the plot. I think they're all like living within this framework and then the car breaks down.

He was never gonna get out anyway. There's always going to be something that keeps them in there, kind of Truman show style. And then, with Agnes and herb, I think the real question is, are they willing participants or are they. People who just happened to be there, who are along for the ride?

It makes me think a little bit of dark city. Did you go back and watch this after we talked about it? Shell? I didn't. Okay. So there's this a vacation place that he's trying to get to called shell beach.

And there's always these pictures of it and it's beautiful or whatever, but like he, he can't get to it. It's like a similar situation where it's like, he can't leave the town. Yeah, it's a location, but like you can't get out of the town. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was like Bermuda is a location, but for whatever reason you can't leave.



So did you think as a child in the same way that we all thought Quicksand was going to be a problem that we had to deal with as adults. Did you think the Bermuda triangle was going to be a thing

it was referenced all the time and the Bermuda triangle has zero relation to my adult life and I felt as a child that was like, okay. Things to remember in life to be a successful adult, avoid the Bermuda triangle, look out for quicksand,



ever since the, David Copperfield days when he went to the Bermuda triangle, I was like, what is this

two episodes in a row where David Copperfield

has come up? That guy was a master entertainer. What was his Duck's name?

He had a duck. What?. I don't remember this at all.

I used to go back and watch them. It's classic, man. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't grow up with that. That was just some film. The happiest

times I remember the specials being on, I just never, had the patience to sit down and watch them or just wasn't at home at the time.

I

don't know, man. Some of the happiest times of my childhood watching that stuff with my fam yeah. Good

stuff. Yeah. Nice

moving right along. Maybe it's a intermission time. Their cup of coffee, pours cup. Why did I have four cups? Why not make this podcast four hours? Absolutely. Yeah.



Hey, do you want to go on a rant? Let's see if it see if has.

All right. What do we got this week? Oh man. Okay. So like last week I talked about how I get an email from Domino's every day, because they want me to order pizza. I also get it and I get an email and a text message, not every day, but I would say two to three times a week from Chili's.

And they, man, they won. They're like you guys restaurants open, free appetizer on us come eat indoors. And I'm like, no, I'm not doing that right now. Maybe later check in again in six months. But here's the deal. I want that free appetizer. I want that free appetizer. I want to use that coupon, but that just means that I've got to delete an email.

Every day, which takes less than a second. Maybe it's the anticipation that I got a worthwhile email. And then having that anticipation let down, like maybe this is an email that's going to be like an old friend reaching out to say hi, or maybe it's an email about a really interesting thing that I want to be a part of.

And then having the let down of, Oh, it's just, Chili's trying to get me to buy another cookie skillet. And here's the thing Chili's I want to buy that cookie skillet. I want to eat a cookie skillet every day of my life, but I can't because I'll have a heart attack from eating too many cookie skillets.

And then my life won't be as long and fruitful as I want it to be. So it's, it's a real Sophie's choice here. I've never seen that movie, but I feel like I'm using the context correctly. So every day I delete that chill's email, man. And it's just a moment in time. A moment in time Yet it affects me.

It shouldn't affect me. It's only a second. It's less than a second to delete this email. What is it? Is it the anticipation? Is it the fact that I want to have a cookie skillet? And I know that I shouldn't because of health reasons, is it because I want the cookie skillet and then I know that I shouldn't drive to Chili's and be indoors.

I don't know what it is, but tomorrow I'll get another email and I'll think on it again. That's all I got Jacob. I just finished my thought on Chili's and I was trying to think if there was anything else, but now it wasn't there. I didn't have anything.

I have a tip for Chili's.

Yeah, don't go there. I want my baby back, David. Oh dude.

chilies. If you're constipated, that's all I can say about that.

If it's between Applebee's and Chili's, I'm taking chilies every day of the week.

Applebee's I think Chili's food, probably all these really Chili's food probably tastes better. It's just the after-effects are very consistent.

What are you getting at? Chili's? I've

tried two different things under cooked burger.

It's been years. Had chilies and then I have the after-effects and then I told myself I'm never going to eat a Chili's again. And then years later I tried it again and same after effects. I'm going to go with my my confirmation bias on this one.

Yeah. Hey look, maybe your body's just not set up for chiles.

Yeah. True story. Their chicken. Crispers wonderful chicken

CRISPR, like

chicken CRISPR. It's a pair too. Like it's a chicken tender. It's a chicken tender, but it's like slightly the breading is a little bit more akin to a long John Silver's, but without all that grease. So it's really crisp, puffy, crunchy quality to it.

Yeah. So it's not like a soft, like a softer, like Lee's chicken lease. Chicken's my favorite.

I haven't had Lee's in a hot minute.

We take an extra trip out there, like every other week or so.

Yeah. Do you go out to the one on Brownsboro? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the only one here. Yeah. Is that the only one?

Oh, wow. I didn't think there were more of those. Yeah. No, at least they're everywhere.

They're everywhere. Yeah. Okay. I remember when we were on the the blue Apple players touring, there was like, Lee's everywhere. Like just random weird stops yeah. Yeah. That was fun. I was nice to be able to do theater professionally for a minute,

right?

Yeah.

Tell me about your professional theater moments. You've had some

professional theater moments. Do I have any, I don't know that I've ever been like officially paid for theater other than the occasional improv show , which, I love the improv shows cause you don't have to learn lines if you just make them up.

It's great. So much fun. Yep. Yeah, man I don't know. I think I did. I got paid for doing that. I think I got a little bit of gas money for doing the the theater five Oh two show. Oh, a couple years back. I play drums in like the third act of a show was was a musical.

So I played drums in that very poorly. Sean Donaldson was like, you can't read music. How are you this old? And you can't read music. And I was like, sorry, bro. I don't know how, I don't know how to read music. Yeah, you don't need to. You're fine. Give me a hard time about that. What else? What else?

, now I have been paid for the occasional commercial and then my six lines in a hallmark mysteries. Movie. Oh, produced by and starring John Voigt did that back in like 2016. Oh, that's awesome. And then I was replaced in the SQL.

Oh my God. Get yourself some hydro soak.



Find the goddess within luxury bath powder. Okay. So bath powder. Is that

If it's the precursor to a bath bomb, I think.

Okay. Cause I feel as a child, any bubble bath situation was all in liquid form.



It makes sense that there would be bath powders. I've just never seen that thing before.

It's probably

Epsom salt in something else. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm guessing. I dunno. Yeah.

This was a fine commercial. I think this reinforces the idea that the commercials don't mean much other than they're just slices of interesting tidbits from Wanda's life. I don't think there's an ulterior motive in the commercial.



You don't think the commercials are trying to influence her mind. They're just like remnants of her

memory. Yeah, I think it's you know how, like you if you do laundry all day and then that's a bad example. If you read a real murdery book before you go to bed, or you watch a real murdery show before you go to bed and then you have a dream about murdery stuff.

I think that's, I think that's where these commercials are living.

Yeah just underneath the surface of it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

Yeah. But they're fun. It's a fun way to play around with the form with that TV, sitcom form,

Oh, we didn't talk about or did we talk about Geraldine saying Ultron and then wanting to get in real murder face,

right? Yeah. That's where we were going before the break there.

Yeah.

Man. Cause she's yeah, so it was, the sequence was Wanda says I was a twin. His name was Pietro. And then she's yeah, he got killed by Ultron. What did you say? Yeah, get out. And then she notices the sword logo on the necklace. She noticed her out of the re

Allity strange how she didn't know what it meant, even though she should probably right.

Don't we feel, I feel like she's, she probably knows what that really is. Wait, who, who

sheet? Wanda .

. Wanda must know what the sword logo means probably more than we do. Because she recognized it. But so it's like she wanted a minute to herself.

She remembered, I think she's remembering it from the beekeepers.

The back of the beekeeper's suit.

Okay. So it's just within this realm then.

Yeah. Yeah, it could, I don't think she's remembering it from some other place. I think it's just the logo from the beekeeper, which confused her, which made her rewind, my guess is.

Wanda came into this town, came in the West view, turned it into this TV sit-com land, whether that was either by. Her own idea or prompted to buy something that maybe Agnes did. Cause I still think Kathryn Hahn is a key cog in what's going on here. And then I think the sword people are just there to see what's going on with this phenomenon and try to help in some way.

And then I think they send Geraldine in as a. Spy as an agent to do some yes, as a spy. And then that's how we get that going on.



Yeah. The whole thing about this is that it's getting more interesting as we go, which I just, I hope people are sticking around and watching it, because it was definitely those first two episodes were a little bit slow, what's really going on here.

So yeah, I wonder, how much of the like casual comic book, movie goer, let's say the people who saw just the Avengers movies didn't watch anything in between, like maybe caught a little bit of civil war, is the casual.

Fan watching the show and able to stick with it. I don't know. I don't know. It's pretty dense. There's a lot going on, but it's all very nuanced.

I'm going to go with

whereas like the Mandalorian kind of has a more like universal star Wars appeal, yeah.

The feedback I've gotten is that the no, like people aren't really digging the show so much.

I just hope they just give it at least to this third episode, because this was really the most captivating to me. So hopefully people are sticking around. Yeah.

So this happened when.

This moment was from when the house was freaking out when she was having her Briggs, Meyers, when she was having the fake contractions. Yeah. And then that was causing the house to spin. So it was pre water breaking, but when the house first started to have a connection to.

Her contractions. I'm pretty sure

Myers-Briggs is a personality test.

Oh, really? Yeah. That's what kind of, what it, those I'm going to Google it to

It's something like that or something Hicks.

Braxton Hicks. That's what it is. It's a hyphenated name. Myers Briggs. Come on, man. What was that?

You know what

It's a personality test. Yeah.

This is a personality test. I was, it was, I was reading something and they brought up the Myers-Briggs test. Somebody brought that up maybe on a post somewhere. Yeah.

Yeah. How many personalities are in a Myers Briggs test?

I have no idea. I don't, I'm going to Google it. I'm obviously unfamiliar with it.

You've never taken that. .

, I haven't put a whole lot of time and energy into it.



Keep a straight face. That's probably ruins the comedy element. Okay. There are 16.

Hey, wait, what happened to my face? Oh, my face. Oh, no Googling stuff over my face. Okay.

Jake, Jacob been Googling and stuff. Okay.

There are 16 Myers-Briggs personalities. Sweet. Yeah. But which is irrelevant to this conversation.

Jacob you're thinking Braxton Hicks.

I'm thinking back.

Yeah. Wait, what?

Braxton Hicks. Contractions. Yes, the classic. Oh, what's funny is the,

the, , yeah. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. These marriage jokes, pregnancy jokes. They're landing with me and my wife. Like we're really enjoying the crap out of it, just cause we're like older. They're really landing pretty well with us. I don't know how they're landing with you.

It's going to be okay. We'll get through this.

Oh, you know what? Let's talk about this here. Let's talk about this.

Okay, so what's interesting about this episode is that this is the first time. Pietro has been brought up since Ultron. Yeah. His name is never brought up in civil war. It's never brought up in either of the two Avengers movies afterward.

Is that a function of okay. Fox and Marvel having like, Marvel gets to keep. Scarlet witch and Fox gets to keep Quicksilver because Quicksilver was such a good character in the newer X-Men movies to where it was like, okay y'all take this one, we'll take this one. And we just won't talk about it ever again.

And then now that Fox, that all the Fox material has reverted to Disney. Then they can bring them up again. Do we think that's why

that makes a lot of sense and they can even right. They can bring him back in either form now if they wanted to.

That's

true. Is he a different character? Is he a different name than the other one?

Was he Pedro

and the other one? I think he's named Peter. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's named Peter. But yeah, I think all of those X-Men characters in that, in their Fox forums, I think are gone except for Deadpool, which they announced is being written right now, Deadpool three. And that it'll be an R rated movie under the, Marvel cinematic

universe.

But that's not coming out on Disney plus that's going to be on no,

that's not coming out of Disney plus now or something. Yeah. Yeah, they'll drop that somewhere else. Now. I think eventually it'll make its way to Disney plus, but I don't think at all. No,

cause you don't. Disney plus is very kid friendly.

You don't want your

did not have any art related stuff. R rated stuff on it? No, I think

that's the whole point of it, I guess

not. Yeah, maybe it won't live there. Maybe it just lives on Hulu.

. Yeah. I think maybe the launch, like Marvel characters on Hulu that are darker and maybe we will start to see some of that Daredevil stuff returning and those kinds of things over there.

Yeah. Now they have the rights to those back.

I just thought it was an interesting observation that Pietro has never brought up. Yeah.

I think maybe they just, they realize that X-Men pulled it off in a much better way.

It looked cooler over there and I think people

probably liked that, but I'm in a bottle scene. In days of future past was so good. It was awesome that, everybody mimics that scene now.

Yeah. Say amazing. And so there's rumors that he's coming back in this in Wandavision, right?

There's rumors that the actors coming back or yeah. Or it could be even the Fox version. I'm not sure where I remember reading a rumor about, , about him coming back. And yeah. If Wanda has the ability to bring people back from the dead man, she is just unreal, like on a, on another level of superhero than we've ever seen before.

She really is. She's vulnerable, like as far as like a human, so she's not like captain Marvel, invincible, but on a reality creating level. If there's anything I could do, if there's a one superpower. Yeah. If there's one super power, what if there's one super power I could have and bring people back from the dead was on the table.

Oh, definitely.

That's wild, man. Yeah. Wow.

Which is wild because her powers aren't derived from the reality stone they're from the mind stone.

Yeah. Which makes you wonder if any of it's real at all. Keep going back to that. Is any of this real? Is it all just fo vision fo all these characters are just like.

Not

even really, everybody's stuck in a mind palace, not even really there.

Yeah. Just I can't wait till the next one, because I feel like we're going to get some answers really soon. I think

they keep, I certainly hope so.

They keep showing that shot where the guys watching from a distance on a monitor.

We should get some answers. I think at some

point. Yes, absolutely. The the thing you've heard was some speculation and on a rewatch, I it sounds, it audibly sounds similar that the voice coming out of the radio though, like Wando, who's doing this to you. That voice might be Randall park who played the FBI agent and ant man and the wasp.

Who that is real quick. Sure. So wait more time for a Googling Randall hard time for Googling random park

images. Oh

yeah. Hold on. Yeah. Cause he's the one who keeps checking in on a ant man in his house arrest, ness. And then he gets really into the magic tricks. That was fun.

Okay, Jimmy. Woo. What were we saying?

He might be the guy on the radio. So then the question is he working for sword now or is there another agency that's trying to, is his sword in charge of this, bubble experiment and FBI is also trying to figure out what's going on or does he work for sword and he's trying to help figure it out his

sword, the good guys.

Cause I don't know that either. Do you know anything about sword? I don't know anything about, so we just know they have a cool

logo

and that's okay. I don't want to Google it. I don't know. I want to read up on the comics. I just want to let it, let the story. Yeah, just let it

unfold if it's him.

If it's him than I, and he's a part of sword than if Geraldine is in fact Monica Rambo, than I imagined sword is in a good, is in a good place because they got some good people attached to them.

But I don't know who this beekeeper person is and maybe he's, whatever, but he had the sword logo on him. Exactly.

Is there, I don't know. Beekeepers are good in real life. I think

so. True. These are important. Yeah.

Environmental has bees things. Yeah. Yeah.

Where are we going with this? It

could be him. Oh no, I just, I, it could be, he might be a partner to grow. He might be integral. Awesome.

That'll be cool. Yeah. I love this guy. Like he's

so fun or maybe it's somebody else's voice and it just sounded enough like him to make the internet speculate.

And for me to go along with that speculation. Yeah,

no, he's really he's he's a funny guy. And it's hilarious. His personality is It's quirky. So him, but he's actually pretty serious in ant-man. For the most part yeah,

and just different.



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I know we did the sharing thing at the beginning,

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This is probably the worst part of your day. We probably ruined your day

Imagine you're doing some laundry and you're running around the house. doing some errands. Let me throw on this bike, I guess with Jacob had been real quick,

if we haven't, if we haven't completely ruined your day.

And do you think someone else would benefit tell a friend telephone? That's all we're saying. Yeah,

that's right. Still it.



Until next time. Hey we'll be back next week with more episode four.

Yeah. Oh, Hey, we might have a, we might have a born yesterday reunion. I'm not sure

but we might have one with

Mike, we might be doing another music episode talking about about our old playing days

back in the day. So yeah. A history lesson of Ben and Jacob and Mike of sorts. Yep. Could get real interesting. Could be really boring. It could be a,

Who knows?

Knows.

What about what about,

I don't know. Thank you, Ben. Thank you for putting up with

me. Thanks Jacob.

No problem until next time. Listen to the outro music. If you love it, do all the things with the dual paradigm over there, listen to it. Yeah. In your own

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The sequence was Wanda says I was a twin. His name was Pietro. And then she's yeah, he got killed by Ultron. What did you say? And then she notices the sword logo on the necklace. She noticed her out of the re

Allity


All right, we're recording again. Oh, my word. Welcome. Welcome. We

did it. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the is this entertainment

podcast? Okay.

Oh gosh, that's going to mess up the whole intro song.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

They've heard it. They're done with it. We need a new intro song. They've

heard it.

It's true. So we need to work on some new stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway. Sweet. So what I'll

do three, do we

want to recommend people again? And maybe that's just, maybe that's just not supposed to be in there.

Recommend a, what

if you know someone

that wants to listen to this podcast?

Be a good friend. Tell them be a good friend to us. Be a good friend of the pod. There's gotta be one person. I'm a quick, Hey, if you check this out, you

this two guys ranting about nonsense.

That's right. And you know what? Sometimes they're going to Google stuff because they're not quite sure.

And sometimes they're funny. I make assumptions.

Sometimes the wrong times. They're going to rant about pizza for five minutes.

Sometimes. Sometimes they'll be an ASMR episode.

Yep. At any rate let's share button. Hey,

before we begin, Hey man, how are you doing? How you doing bud? You doing all right? I'm all right. Good. Yeah.

As you listen to the sound of my voice. The one

division you got the monitor on where you can hear yourself.

Now do I sound

Oh, okay. Yeah, no I don't. Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine.

Can do I sound different today?

Definitely. Absolutely.

Where we just say hello into the microphone over and over again. Seven-year-old children. I tag out and I

were aspiring voiceover artists

high

in your mind. Feel the power of the crystal.

I just lost. Hey, watched wonder woman again last night.

Oh yeah. New thoughts.

Yeah. No, not really. It's just, it was fun. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I would put it at a good. If the original wonder woman was a nine out of 10, but this one at a six and a half seven.

Yeah. You're too kind, sir. . No, I think you're right, man. Yeah, probably a six. Yeah. Solid six

that's. Yeah. If it was between re-watching suicide squad, Or one woman 84, I think I'd watch 84.

Yeah.

. It's the second side squad. I would put it like four and a half to five somewhere around there. If it was between Batman versus Superman.

When you take into account, something we skipped over. We glossed over it, it didn't cross our minds at the time is wonder woman taking advantage of some other dudes body.

While

yeah. No that there's definitely some consent issues going on there. Where is random attractive man's consciousness while Steve, Trevor is inhibiting him? Is he waking up, a day later being like I had, did I have sex last night? Yeah, I don't. I feel

weird.

Some weird dreams. it's just, I don't know why that didn't cross my mind at the time consent is a thing,

consent is a thing. Yup. And now that's not what we're here to talk about today. We're here to talk about Wandavision, episode three.

I like where the show is going. How about you?

Yeah, I'm really excited about the future possibility of the show and the idea that it's using old school television shows too. So what's going on inside of Wanda's mind or reality or whatever it is that's going on. It brings back some some memories for me and some feels.

But I F I have a feeling most people haven't watched these shows yet. So I, when it catches up to the the friends episodes and the things that we've seen, more recently,

it might, yeah, I'm really intrigued as to like it. Where's it going to go? Is it going to touch the world of like single cam sitcoms?

Like at the office with looking to the camera, bringing him a shaky cam stuff, like some rights and arrested development style like documentary style

but I did get it. It's moving at a quicker pace. It's not as slow burney as the first two episodes.

Quick pace though. It might've went to fast. This was like 20 minutes long this episode.

She had a nine month pregnancy in the span of 30 minutes.

Let's talk about the split level, man, you wanted to talk about the the architecture

here. Yeah. So here's the deal. This house is very similar to the Brady bunch house and they both have. This split level kind of vibe to it, but it's not three, four feet down to where it's like a split level thing.

It's three steps, like the main floor. You have the living room. Or actually it's, I think it's two steps. So really 24 inches down, you've got the living room or whatever. So it's not what you would call the second floor. So as I'm watching this, I'm thinking like, was that a thing.

Back in like the late sixties, early seventies to where they were doing these like dropdown living rooms. I realized, as I'm saying this, my mom's house has a, like the family room has a six inch dip. There is a step down into that one room, but then but I feel like this was like a thing, like this was like a fad with.

Houses in that time and I could be completely wrong. But I think about the, , in the Beatles help movie they've got like this sunken in like living room in one of the houses there. I feel like that's, that was a thing of the time. So then does that mean, like in the eighties, there were a bunch of houses having the sub floor, like completely redone to make houses.

Level again, I don't know the answer to this question and I'm probably going to end up going down like some sort of internet wormhole later, but I just wanted to bring it up. Yeah.

And my counter to this is just this house was probably on a Hill. And so they likely. Just the architecture of the Hill and

you might

be right. Your, of the house that we see in this show. And the exterior of the Brady bunch house does not show that it's on a Hill. Their backyard is flat as the day is long. It

might've been a thing. And then Astro turf grass, and then too many people Stop looking down and

and people had trips and falls in their own houses, and then they were like, this is not functional. I gotta fix this. Yeah. But then the staircase did the staircase have handrails

for this one, I don't see any handrails, and that's, what's weird about That's a new thing. I think, people not looking down well, people just looking at their phones, I think is the problem.

They're not looking where they're going.

Oh no. Okay. I just saw a picture. There are handrails, but it's definitely like that. It's like a floating staircase. Where there is there aren't walls on the other side is just a, yeah. It's just a how it's anchored. Yeah. So this might've been a similar to the Brady bunch house, which I'm looking at here.

Yeah, but there's handrails. Nevermind.

The codes, the houses have probably been updated and they're like, look, you can't be doing this. Two feet down, you're going to have somebody break an ankle in your house and they're going to see you. So we're just going to take that off the equation, especially if you have kids.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. You got to be toddlers, although it might be nice for keeping them corralled. If you've got like a crawler who can't really go upstairs yet, you just drop them down in that recess to living room. You

make an excellent point because kitchens are dangerous.

So if you can keep the kid out of the kitchen,

that makes sense. You got a clear line of sight from the kitchen, keep an eye on him. Except for that giant coffee table, gave tables rounded off. So they're not going to hit their head on a corner. True story.

Yeah.

Lord, help us. God's Wandavision gods.

I know you're trying to lead the conversation in the right way and then I just don't follow. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, Ben.

No, you're all right. Yeah. Hey, we're all doing our best here for all doing our best.

We're all doing 80% of our best. There's probably 20% out there that we could reach it, reach down deep and grab. But look, it's not that serious.

It's not it's Wandavision yeah. So the philosophical implications here, they're getting weird. It's getting weird about what reality is, what her reality is.

What you know is this the matrix in her mind or is this the matrix that she's in her mind and influencing the world that we'd see, that we touched and tastes. That's probably the wrong word to use,

touch and feel for one. I think the end of the episode with.

Geraldine getting thrown out of this physical space that has some sort of like force field around it. And then all of these like sword agents coming out, and this is not happening in Wanda's mind. Now it's obviously influenced by her mind whether or not it's completely her creation, or if it's something that's being done to her are, , I don't know the answer to that one yet, but I do think that this is a physical space and that all of these people, that are know and developed into this world of what West view is that what it's called Westlake.

Westview.

So these people are in a physical space called Westview, and these are real people, except I don't know about vision. How was his vision? Real? Or is he a figment of her mind? Because last I checked, he died.

Here's the thing, though, all of these real people are affected by Wanda's mind, they're carrying out.

I believe the wishes of Wanda to right. For the most part. So these people may or may not be real at all. Or they're like, the implications of what's coming up here is talking about Wanda's reality bubble, or like where I'm at, philosophically and theoretically, like how reality works, some things I'm starting to think about and, reality bubbles which we can talk about later.

But still this is getting weird. It's getting in the weird zone and I like it. I like it.

Oh yeah. I tell you the scene where the neighbor is trimming his hedges and then gets his hedge trimmer stuck in the hey. There he is. I forgot his character name. But he starts sawing up the block with the hedge trimmer one.

I don't know that there's a hedge trimmer on the market. And certainly not in 1968 or 72, whenever this is taking place, there's not a hedge trimmer on the market. That's going through a cinderblock like that. No. Or at least not in the amount of time. And it isn't over the course of a couple of days.

It's a little thought provoking that the fence to her house is not a fence. It's a cinder block. That's

It's prison of the mind. Yeah.

It could literally be a prison, like a physical prison, a mind prison, both things at the same time somehow. I think both. Yeah. I think that's maybe where we're going here.

So like this could all be some kind of.

This could all be some kind of what a

trick to make her have children, with all that for the children then going on before, put those ideas in Wanda's mind, so that she has children.

I'm assuming there's also the separation of Geraldine from everyone else, right?

Kathryn hahn's Hey Geraldine in there. What's up with that. She's not, she doesn't have a home and all that weird talk like, so is it a thing where, some other people have tricked Wanda , into this West view to make her have some kids and do whatever.

And Geraldine was sent in to save her, but because of. The mind games and Wanda being thrilled to be in this world with vision, maybe, she got lost in that mentally until one to brings up her brother. And that obviously triggers, something going on.

Wanda is.



One that brings it up first. Cause she says I have a twin or I had a twin. And then says his name. And then she was like, Oh yeah, he was killed by Ultron. And then it's Whoa, don't mention reality. What did you say?

This is, you get the F out of my reality.

Yeah. Which feels a lot like American politics.

Wait, what

it's like when you mentioned something that is the opposite of someone's political view, that is the respect can be the response, like a triggered response of the person who has the other view. You know what I mean?



If you're talking like in the internet space, in the internet

space and maybe even to some degree, real space with people who get triggered easily, having a sit down conversation with your uncle, Jim, who, has a different point of view about things, it can be triggering and you might yell at him and tell him to leave.

You know what I mean? It's it's interesting to see

, this version of that. I know this is not a political version or even a political discussion, but this happens in real life, right? When people that disagree with each other. And someone brings in an idea that is so they've already made their mind up about there's no conversation and there's no there's no room for allowing that into your reality so much that you reject them from your reality.

And Wanda is doing that literally here, literally. Reality bubbles, man. It's a thing. It's a thing.

Okay. All right. Yeah,

we can get back to the episode.

No, it's a reality bubble.

So reality bubble curious. This is this show is an example of a reality bubble. I think everyone carries their own.

Bubble of reality with them. What they feel like reality is what they feel like, their beliefs, their views, their paradigm, if you will they carry that with them. And in general, most things will reflect most things in their life will reflect their beliefs their own reality bubble, as they see it.

And if something tries to enter their reality bubble, that is not cohesive with it, it will be rejected. Like quickly and like this for, this is the only way I have to describe it, but it just, it's just outright rejected, you have a different opinion about the weather, if somebody is very much A climate change person, and they're really worried about carbon emissions.

And you're like what about every time I pumped my gas, gasoline drips on the concrete and that's happened forever. Why hasn't anybody fixed that? You know what I mean? If you try to make a point about something from a different angle, maybe they'll just they'll instantly reject it,

but there's there's something to be said about like the what about you could do that all day, it doesn't negate the original thought, I'm trying to. Create an example here.



When something comes from the authority . We become less inquisitive and less willing to look at alternate views because it's already been decided for us because we respect authority from going into school and having to raise our hand to ask a question, it starts there and So having a different view about any of these things becomes hard because of the way that we are taught in schools, . The big bang when we were in school, like the big bang was like not a hundred percent.

It was, it's big bang theory for a reason, I think. And but now, it's pretty much accepted. Okay. Big bang consensus. We've come to the consensus. That's where the universe started, and it's all these people are smarter than me. So I guess I'll go with that, but if you do any kind of research, there's going to be scientists that have evidence to the contrary or evidence, like different theories, you know that they're out there, it's still a theory.

You know what I mean? Am I making any sense?

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I look, I get that. There's going to be scientists out there that, might have different findings, the question becomes, yeah. You have to start looking at do these people have ulterior motives are there and that's, that's all across the board, and are there.

Are there outside forces. Pushing them to lean certain ways, who's really independent, that kind of stuff. All I'm saying,

Is like that it becomes the consensus reality and that becomes the reality that people have that are in their bubbles. And then you say no, there's actually evidence that I don't know, whatever.

Contrary con contrary, contrary, that, scientists said the universe is expanding. Scientists said, universe is contracting. There's two different theories out there, and that so one person has accepted. One thing is true and another person's accepted.

Another thing is true. And then when they talk in general The opposite thing has rejected like outright, and I think we're just seeing a literal version of that in the show. That's all I'm really getting at. I'm not trying to go,

I'm not trying to go super deep here. I'm just trying to just put the idea in that, that maybe we carry our reality is with us. That's all I'm saying, , but what I'm getting at is if you want to change your reality, the person you should be worried about is more yourself and not everyone else.

That's really all I'm getting at because your bubble affects what's around you. That's all I can say. As far as this is also just a theory, so my theory is just my theory,

yeah. All so what about this episode? Did you like.

Woo. I love your favorite part. I th I got the most weird vibes when this happened, when he just starts and his face, oh my gosh, it was so good.

I love that for a minute. I thought they had done something to his eyes. I thought maybe his eyes were like bluer, but then I rewatched that scene and it turns out no, that was just in my mind. I thought maybe he had gotten zombified, just say stellar. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Also again, that hedge trimmers not going through that concrete block



I can't state that enough.

So what's weird here. It's this is like Wanda losing a little bit of control over her bubble here. That's what I feel like. This is like she's because of the pregnancy that's going on. She's.

It's throwing

Everything out of whack because of all of our emotion that she seems to have a little bit of difficulty controlling speaking of which I also really enjoyed the the peacock.

What? Not the peacock? The, Oh, the stork. Yeah, the stork. That was a.

That was great. That was my favorite part of the stork. Was him going for the fish on the fish print of Geraldine's pants? Yeah, that was great. I was like, yes. That's the real reason he's going for those pants. Them's look like fishes.

Yeah, so that was pretty genius and, I just wonder, like, why. Like, why is the stork real? You know what I mean? Like why does it come alive?

Yeah. In my mind, I just chalked it up to that's just part of the, just goes hand in hand with all the other stuff that's going on, power going out.

Raining in the house, the pictures on the walls spinning, like it's just one more manifestation of Wanda's power's going nuts.

Yeah. But this could be like, the stork could literally be like a. Part of that outside, it could be part of outside influence or it could be just Wanda's stuff going haywire.

And these characters here are actually, they talk a little bit about what's really going on. It seems like they're trying to say it, but they can't, which is right.

So we've got the doctor who. Is going to take a trip to Bermuda, but then after the kids are born, he's like small towns have a way of not being able to get out.

That was creepy. And then you've got the Kathryn Hahn conversation of, look something's up with Geraldine. She's not one of us. These are. So there's an us versus them kind of thing. Going on with, with Geraldine, she's wearing a sword logo on her necklace. So there's something going on there, is she working for sword and everybody else is like a willing participant in this Westview experiment or are they unwilling participants who want to get out of this experiment?

Don't know the answer to that. Yeah. And also his vision real I'm still going, keep coming back to his vision, real his vision, like his vision, somebody else. Is it a Steve Trevor thing where like somebody else is brought into play vision and Wanda's on enough to just make him vision the rest of the way in her mind.

That

would

be so he could be the bad guy here. Yeah. Essentially a lot of

sense. Yeah. Or he's just some other robot that's close enough. But he also has that moment where after talking to the neighbors the first time where he goes in and talks to Wanda and he's Hey. You get the feeling that something's wrong here.

And then he sits down on the couch and they have it's like, all right, we're finally going to have the conversation and then it just edits and he's back standing up and then they redo that scene with him. Not going into that. Oh, yeah. Who buddy? Yeah. Why does control a quicker edit?

Yeah, Wanda's control on this.

Realities is pretty wild and it does seem like vision does have a little bit of autonomy because there, there are multiple scenes where he is not with her. So it does seem like he has his own

also. He's getting a little goosey, loosey goosey with throwing those powers out there. He ran over to the doctor's house.

Yes. He was in his more human form, but he ran over there. He put the doc on his back, obviously the doc knows something's up. Yeah. It's really making me

think. He realized it might really be vision because he really does have Wanda's best interest. In mind it seems yeah.

And then. When the twins are born, he also, turns himself back to his purple-ish Magento itself.

And then she starts to have the second baby, where we're believing that she started screaming like she was having another baby. And th the people in the room 10 feet away, don't notice that he's magenta. I think there's some stuff going on,

Obviously there's weird stuff going on.

This is a weird, this is a weird show. And I'm really excited about like the, what is going to be the result of this, like absolutely

because yeah, we S we still got to figure out who's. Who's actually running the show and then who is just a part of things and then is soar just observing a lot of questions, a lot of

Questions.

Yeah. Yeah it makes me think that

The ancillary characters only see what Wanda wants them to see. Except that w so it's, they're not all the same, like the doc, like the two people in the room. The doctor for the main, mainly the doctor doesn't see him as being magenta. Doesn't freak out. Like he's not that freaking out too much about even being ran a thousand miles an hour.

So he's let's walk next time or whatever, but

it's like subtle

hints, but it's not affecting him too much, not as much if it happened to us, obviously we would freak out,

he's not calling out the weird thing that's for sure.

Yeah. So is he an external character and he knows what's up.

Is he a figment of Wanda's mind are the other two characters? W why don't we know their names?

Agnes and,

Herb or her services, name herb, Agnes, and Herbie. So yeah, they seem to know something extra. Are they a figment of her mind also? Are they real? It's just getting weirder and weirder.

I think real people, I think they're real people based off of the doctor's line about. Small towns, you can't really get out of them. And then and like the sadness behind that line, the way he said it, it just made me think this is a guy who doesn't understand what his situation is, but understands that he's stuck and then the conversation.

So if he understands

he's stuck, why did he just have a plan to go to Bermuda? You know what I mean?

Because I think they're trying to live, I think they're living their lives, dives in this sitcom world. I don't think they go on pause until they're needed for the plot. I think they're all like living within this framework and then the car breaks down.

He was never gonna get out anyway. There's always going to be something that keeps them in there, kind of Truman show style. And then, with Agnes and herb, I think the real question is, are they willing participants or are they. People who just happened to be there, who are along for the ride?

It makes me think a little bit of dark city. Did you go back and watch this after we talked about it? Shell? I didn't. Okay. So there's this a vacation place that he's trying to get to called shell beach.

And there's always these pictures of it and it's beautiful or whatever, but like he, he can't get to it. It's like a similar situation where it's like, he can't leave the town. Yeah, it's a location, but like you can't get out of the town. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was like Bermuda is a location, but for whatever reason you can't leave.



So did you think as a child in the same way that we all thought Quicksand was going to be a problem that we had to deal with as adults. Did you think the Bermuda triangle was going to be a thing

it was referenced all the time and the Bermuda triangle has zero relation to my adult life and I felt as a child that was like, okay. Things to remember in life to be a successful adult, avoid the Bermuda triangle, look out for quicksand,



ever since the, David Copperfield days when he went to the Bermuda triangle, I was like, what is this

two episodes in a row where David Copperfield

has come up? That guy was a master entertainer. What was his Duck's name?

He had a duck. What?. I don't remember this at all.

I used to go back and watch them. It's classic, man. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't grow up with that. That was just some film. The happiest

times I remember the specials being on, I just never, had the patience to sit down and watch them or just wasn't at home at the time.

I

don't know, man. Some of the happiest times of my childhood watching that stuff with my fam yeah. Good

stuff. Yeah. Nice

moving right along. Maybe it's a intermission time. Their cup of coffee, pours cup. Why did I have four cups? Why not make this podcast four hours? Absolutely. Yeah.



Hey, do you want to go on a rant? Let's see if it see if has.

All right. What do we got this week? Oh man. Okay. So like last week I talked about how I get an email from Domino's every day, because they want me to order pizza. I also get it and I get an email and a text message, not every day, but I would say two to three times a week from Chili's.

And they, man, they won. They're like you guys restaurants open, free appetizer on us come eat indoors. And I'm like, no, I'm not doing that right now. Maybe later check in again in six months. But here's the deal. I want that free appetizer. I want that free appetizer. I want to use that coupon, but that just means that I've got to delete an email.

Every day, which takes less than a second. Maybe it's the anticipation that I got a worthwhile email. And then having that anticipation let down, like maybe this is an email that's going to be like an old friend reaching out to say hi, or maybe it's an email about a really interesting thing that I want to be a part of.

And then having the let down of, Oh, it's just, Chili's trying to get me to buy another cookie skillet. And here's the thing Chili's I want to buy that cookie skillet. I want to eat a cookie skillet every day of my life, but I can't because I'll have a heart attack from eating too many cookie skillets.

And then my life won't be as long and fruitful as I want it to be. So it's, it's a real Sophie's choice here. I've never seen that movie, but I feel like I'm using the context correctly. So every day I delete that chill's email, man. And it's just a moment in time. A moment in time Yet it affects me.

It shouldn't affect me. It's only a second. It's less than a second to delete this email. What is it? Is it the anticipation? Is it the fact that I want to have a cookie skillet? And I know that I shouldn't because of health reasons, is it because I want the cookie skillet and then I know that I shouldn't drive to Chili's and be indoors.

I don't know what it is, but tomorrow I'll get another email and I'll think on it again. That's all I got Jacob. I just finished my thought on Chili's and I was trying to think if there was anything else, but now it wasn't there. I didn't have anything.

I have a tip for Chili's.

Yeah, don't go there. I want my baby back, David. Oh dude.

chilies. If you're constipated, that's all I can say about that.

If it's between Applebee's and Chili's, I'm taking chilies every day of the week.

Applebee's I think Chili's food, probably all these really Chili's food probably tastes better. It's just the after-effects are very consistent.

What are you getting at? Chili's? I've

tried two different things under cooked burger.

It's been years. Had chilies and then I have the after-effects and then I told myself I'm never going to eat a Chili's again. And then years later I tried it again and same after effects. I'm going to go with my my confirmation bias on this one.

Yeah. Hey look, maybe your body's just not set up for chiles.

Yeah. True story. Their chicken. Crispers wonderful chicken

CRISPR, like

chicken CRISPR. It's a pair too. Like it's a chicken tender. It's a chicken tender, but it's like slightly the breading is a little bit more akin to a long John Silver's, but without all that grease. So it's really crisp, puffy, crunchy quality to it.

Yeah. So it's not like a soft, like a softer, like Lee's chicken lease. Chicken's my favorite.

I haven't had Lee's in a hot minute.

We take an extra trip out there, like every other week or so.

Yeah. Do you go out to the one on Brownsboro? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the only one here. Yeah. Is that the only one?

Oh, wow. I didn't think there were more of those. Yeah. No, at least they're everywhere.

They're everywhere. Yeah. Okay. I remember when we were on the the blue Apple players touring, there was like, Lee's everywhere. Like just random weird stops yeah. Yeah. That was fun. I was nice to be able to do theater professionally for a minute,

right?

Yeah.

Tell me about your professional theater moments. You've had some

professional theater moments. Do I have any, I don't know that I've ever been like officially paid for theater other than the occasional improv show , which, I love the improv shows cause you don't have to learn lines if you just make them up.

It's great. So much fun. Yep. Yeah, man I don't know. I think I did. I got paid for doing that. I think I got a little bit of gas money for doing the the theater five Oh two show. Oh, a couple years back. I play drums in like the third act of a show was was a musical.

So I played drums in that very poorly. Sean Donaldson was like, you can't read music. How are you this old? And you can't read music. And I was like, sorry, bro. I don't know how, I don't know how to read music. Yeah, you don't need to. You're fine. Give me a hard time about that. What else? What else?

, now I have been paid for the occasional commercial and then my six lines in a hallmark mysteries. Movie. Oh, produced by and starring John Voigt did that back in like 2016. Oh, that's awesome. And then I was replaced in the SQL.

Oh my God. Get yourself some hydro soak.



Find the goddess within luxury bath powder. Okay. So bath powder. Is that

If it's the precursor to a bath bomb, I think.

Okay. Cause I feel as a child, any bubble bath situation was all in liquid form.



It makes sense that there would be bath powders. I've just never seen that thing before.

It's probably

Epsom salt in something else. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm guessing. I dunno. Yeah.

This was a fine commercial. I think this reinforces the idea that the commercials don't mean much other than they're just slices of interesting tidbits from Wanda's life. I don't think there's an ulterior motive in the commercial.



You don't think the commercials are trying to influence her mind. They're just like remnants of her

memory. Yeah, I think it's you know how, like you if you do laundry all day and then that's a bad example. If you read a real murdery book before you go to bed, or you watch a real murdery show before you go to bed and then you have a dream about murdery stuff.

I think that's, I think that's where these commercials are living.

Yeah just underneath the surface of it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

Yeah. But they're fun. It's a fun way to play around with the form with that TV, sitcom form,

Oh, we didn't talk about or did we talk about Geraldine saying Ultron and then wanting to get in real murder face,

right? Yeah. That's where we were going before the break there.

Yeah.

Man. Cause she's yeah, so it was, the sequence was Wanda says I was a twin. His name was Pietro. And then she's yeah, he got killed by Ultron. What did you say? Yeah, get out. And then she notices the sword logo on the necklace. She noticed her out of the re

Allity strange how she didn't know what it meant, even though she should probably right.

Don't we feel, I feel like she's, she probably knows what that really is. Wait, who, who

sheet? Wanda .

. Wanda must know what the sword logo means probably more than we do. Because she recognized it. But so it's like she wanted a minute to herself.

She remembered, I think she's remembering it from the beekeepers.

The back of the beekeeper's suit.

Okay. So it's just within this realm then.

Yeah. Yeah, it could, I don't think she's remembering it from some other place. I think it's just the logo from the beekeeper, which confused her, which made her rewind, my guess is.

Wanda came into this town, came in the West view, turned it into this TV sit-com land, whether that was either by. Her own idea or prompted to buy something that maybe Agnes did. Cause I still think Kathryn Hahn is a key cog in what's going on here. And then I think the sword people are just there to see what's going on with this phenomenon and try to help in some way.

And then I think they send Geraldine in as a. Spy as an agent to do some yes, as a spy. And then that's how we get that going on.



Yeah. The whole thing about this is that it's getting more interesting as we go, which I just, I hope people are sticking around and watching it, because it was definitely those first two episodes were a little bit slow, what's really going on here.

So yeah, I wonder, how much of the like casual comic book, movie goer, let's say the people who saw just the Avengers movies didn't watch anything in between, like maybe caught a little bit of civil war, is the casual.

Fan watching the show and able to stick with it. I don't know. I don't know. It's pretty dense. There's a lot going on, but it's all very nuanced.

I'm going to go with

whereas like the Mandalorian kind of has a more like universal star Wars appeal, yeah.

The feedback I've gotten is that the no, like people aren't really digging the show so much.

I just hope they just give it at least to this third episode, because this was really the most captivating to me. So hopefully people are sticking around. Yeah.

So this happened when.

This moment was from when the house was freaking out when she was having her Briggs, Meyers, when she was having the fake contractions. Yeah. And then that was causing the house to spin. So it was pre water breaking, but when the house first started to have a connection to.

Her contractions. I'm pretty sure

Myers-Briggs is a personality test.

Oh, really? Yeah. That's what kind of, what it, those I'm going to Google it to

It's something like that or something Hicks.

Braxton Hicks. That's what it is. It's a hyphenated name. Myers Briggs. Come on, man. What was that?

You know what

It's a personality test. Yeah.

This is a personality test. I was, it was, I was reading something and they brought up the Myers-Briggs test. Somebody brought that up maybe on a post somewhere. Yeah.

Yeah. How many personalities are in a Myers Briggs test?

I have no idea. I don't, I'm going to Google it. I'm obviously unfamiliar with it.

You've never taken that. .

, I haven't put a whole lot of time and energy into it.



Keep a straight face. That's probably ruins the comedy element. Okay. There are 16.

Hey, wait, what happened to my face? Oh, my face. Oh, no Googling stuff over my face. Okay.

Jake, Jacob been Googling and stuff. Okay.

There are 16 Myers-Briggs personalities. Sweet. Yeah. But which is irrelevant to this conversation.

Jacob you're thinking Braxton Hicks.

I'm thinking back.

Yeah. Wait, what?

Braxton Hicks. Contractions. Yes, the classic. Oh, what's funny is the,

the, , yeah. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. These marriage jokes, pregnancy jokes. They're landing with me and my wife. Like we're really enjoying the crap out of it, just cause we're like older. They're really landing pretty well with us. I don't know how they're landing with you.

It's going to be okay. We'll get through this.

Oh, you know what? Let's talk about this here. Let's talk about this.

Okay, so what's interesting about this episode is that this is the first time. Pietro has been brought up since Ultron. Yeah. His name is never brought up in civil war. It's never brought up in either of the two Avengers movies afterward.

Is that a function of okay. Fox and Marvel having like, Marvel gets to keep. Scarlet witch and Fox gets to keep Quicksilver because Quicksilver was such a good character in the newer X-Men movies to where it was like, okay y'all take this one, we'll take this one. And we just won't talk about it ever again.

And then now that Fox, that all the Fox material has reverted to Disney. Then they can bring them up again. Do we think that's why

that makes a lot of sense and they can even right. They can bring him back in either form now if they wanted to.

That's

true. Is he a different character? Is he a different name than the other one?

Was he Pedro

and the other one? I think he's named Peter. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's named Peter. But yeah, I think all of those X-Men characters in that, in their Fox forums, I think are gone except for Deadpool, which they announced is being written right now, Deadpool three. And that it'll be an R rated movie under the, Marvel cinematic

universe.

But that's not coming out on Disney plus that's going to be on no,

that's not coming out of Disney plus now or something. Yeah. Yeah, they'll drop that somewhere else. Now. I think eventually it'll make its way to Disney plus, but I don't think at all. No,

cause you don't. Disney plus is very kid friendly.

You don't want your

did not have any art related stuff. R rated stuff on it? No, I think

that's the whole point of it, I guess

not. Yeah, maybe it won't live there. Maybe it just lives on Hulu.

. Yeah. I think maybe the launch, like Marvel characters on Hulu that are darker and maybe we will start to see some of that Daredevil stuff returning and those kinds of things over there.

Yeah. Now they have the rights to those back.

I just thought it was an interesting observation that Pietro has never brought up. Yeah.

I think maybe they just, they realize that X-Men pulled it off in a much better way.

It looked cooler over there and I think people

probably liked that, but I'm in a bottle scene. In days of future past was so good. It was awesome that, everybody mimics that scene now.

Yeah. Say amazing. And so there's rumors that he's coming back in this in Wandavision, right?

There's rumors that the actors coming back or yeah. Or it could be even the Fox version. I'm not sure where I remember reading a rumor about, , about him coming back. And yeah. If Wanda has the ability to bring people back from the dead man, she is just unreal, like on a, on another level of superhero than we've ever seen before.

She really is. She's vulnerable, like as far as like a human, so she's not like captain Marvel, invincible, but on a reality creating level. If there's anything I could do, if there's a one superpower. Yeah. If there's one super power, what if there's one super power I could have and bring people back from the dead was on the table.

Oh, definitely.

That's wild, man. Yeah. Wow.

Which is wild because her powers aren't derived from the reality stone they're from the mind stone.

Yeah. Which makes you wonder if any of it's real at all. Keep going back to that. Is any of this real? Is it all just fo vision fo all these characters are just like.

Not

even really, everybody's stuck in a mind palace, not even really there.

Yeah. Just I can't wait till the next one, because I feel like we're going to get some answers really soon. I think

they keep, I certainly hope so.

They keep showing that shot where the guys watching from a distance on a monitor.

We should get some answers. I think at some

point. Yes, absolutely. The the thing you've heard was some speculation and on a rewatch, I it sounds, it audibly sounds similar that the voice coming out of the radio though, like Wando, who's doing this to you. That voice might be Randall park who played the FBI agent and ant man and the wasp.

Who that is real quick. Sure. So wait more time for a Googling Randall hard time for Googling random park

images. Oh

yeah. Hold on. Yeah. Cause he's the one who keeps checking in on a ant man in his house arrest, ness. And then he gets really into the magic tricks. That was fun.

Okay, Jimmy. Woo. What were we saying?

He might be the guy on the radio. So then the question is he working for sword now or is there another agency that's trying to, is his sword in charge of this, bubble experiment and FBI is also trying to figure out what's going on or does he work for sword and he's trying to help figure it out his

sword, the good guys.

Cause I don't know that either. Do you know anything about sword? I don't know anything about, so we just know they have a cool

logo

and that's okay. I don't want to Google it. I don't know. I want to read up on the comics. I just want to let it, let the story. Yeah, just let it

unfold if it's him.

If it's him than I, and he's a part of sword than if Geraldine is in fact Monica Rambo, than I imagined sword is in a good, is in a good place because they got some good people attached to them.

But I don't know who this beekeeper person is and maybe he's, whatever, but he had the sword logo on him. Exactly.

Is there, I don't know. Beekeepers are good in real life. I think

so. True. These are important. Yeah.

Environmental has bees things. Yeah. Yeah.

Where are we going with this? It

could be him. Oh no, I just, I, it could be, he might be a partner to grow. He might be integral. Awesome.

That'll be cool. Yeah. I love this guy. Like he's

so fun or maybe it's somebody else's voice and it just sounded enough like him to make the internet speculate.

And for me to go along with that speculation. Yeah,

no, he's really he's he's a funny guy. And it's hilarious. His personality is It's quirky. So him, but he's actually pretty serious in ant-man. For the most part yeah,

and just different.



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Imagine you're doing some laundry and you're running around the house. doing some errands. Let me throw on this bike, I guess with Jacob had been real quick,

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And do you think someone else would benefit tell a friend telephone? That's all we're saying. Yeah,

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Until next time. Hey we'll be back next week with more episode four.

Yeah. Oh, Hey, we might have a, we might have a born yesterday reunion. I'm not sure

but we might have one with

Mike, we might be doing another music episode talking about about our old playing days

back in the day. So yeah. A history lesson of Ben and Jacob and Mike of sorts. Yep. Could get real interesting. Could be really boring. It could be a,

Who knows?

Knows.

What about what about,

I don't know. Thank you, Ben. Thank you for putting up with

me. Thanks Jacob.

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Put it on your, put it on your playlist and we'll catch you in the next one.

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