What was new this week? Cobra Kai? What's even happening?
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Oh, man. What
the hell is happening? What's happening to this country.
Oh gosh. How long do you have? No, what
is that thing? When we grew up, they said United, we stand divided. We fall. How come people don't seem to remember that
is that our flag? Is that like somewhere? Yeah. Maybe we should think about that.
But who's, I should, it'd be
Okay. And without getting political, we're going to talk about the entertainment news. I just
skip right on which
there was none, there was
nothing sweet week. You and I going back and forth and be like, so what are we going to talk about this week? I don't know. Something will
come up. There was Cobra, Kai.
There was Cobra Kai.
But here's the thing you're watching it. And I haven't gotten around to it yet.
What I'll say is if you ever watched karate kid in your entire life, you will love the show. If you've never watched karate kid, there's a good chance. You will hate this show. Really?
Like my wife, just she has a hard time just like getting into it because you see the worst side of every character and the best side, like that is some good storytelling, but it's not what you expect.
I w I know just enough about the plot to know that what you just said, that it really looks at things from, Johnny's perspective and how that first movie affected him.
And then yeah it tells. It tells a very balanced story and makes you question, those eighties movies had a very clear, this is the good guy, and this is the bad guy. And now they're going back and cleaning that up and making me like no, these are just real guys. And that's cool.
Yeah, it's great. We explore that. We're not all perfect and whatnot. And it explores, like what to, what happens, to washed up like toxic max masculine guys. Everybody wants to talk about toxic masculinity for some reason. So God,
so say it one more time.
Say it one more time. Toxic masculine.
What the What happened though? Remember when we were kids, like we had heroes like Arnold and what's his name? Rambo. Sylvester. Stallone. Yeah. What happened to like mainly men, man?
You could still be manly. Yeah. But
I've never been one. I've never been extremely manly, but I'm just saying
I think There's
the bummer is I haven't watched Cobra guy, so I can't really speak exactly to it. I just mean in general, but I think, if your masculinity is built on being a Ick, then that's toxic, that's not a good thing. So don't be a Ick, so I think, Hey, that's worth examining Hey, let's just make sure that our role models, aren't terrible pieces of crap who, Sexually abused women and do a bunch of, bullying and whatnot.
I don't know. I'm just pulling things from no,
that's why you're here. You're here to give the other side I'm here to just play devil's advocate for no reason, and you can, you're welcome to do the same thing. So because we're friends in real life, yeah.
People like people probably think we were like really angry with each other on the last podcast.
No. So shows good. I should start watching, correct?
Yes. Yeah. You should just, yeah. I just found out about it like last night. Last year or
something? When it first came out, it was on the YouTube TV.
And I just wasn't in, I wasn't in a place where I was going to pay for another subscription, but now that it's on Netflix, something that I already pay for, I'm going to dive in, but it's just, the opportunity has presented itself. We've got our list on the fridge of the shows that we're going to knock out and look true.
Detective season three is still on that list. I've got to get through that first.
I'm kinda done with cop shows I'm done with cop shows and hospital shows.
Oh my goodness. Yeah. I had to give up on hospital shows. I did go back and rewatch, ER relatively recently. Didn't go completely back, like to the beginning back in 2008, 2009, somewhere around there.
Every day in the morning time, TBS would play two episodes of ER. Around like 10:00 AM and 11:00 AM. At the time I was working at the park, so I was off on weekdays. So I would just naturally happen upon an episode of ER, at 10:00 AM. And then I was like, I'm really getting into this.
And this was before streaming really took off and I was not going to buy 15 seasons worth of DVDs. No. So I would just DVR those episodes every day. And then like, when I would have an off day, I would just burn through, the weeks ER, episodes. And I got seasons one through nine done.
And then I found out last year that everything was on Hulu. And went back and watched 10 through 15. I had already seen season 15.
That is a lot of shots in a hospital. I just hope my goodness. I can't imagine.
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of tragic stuff going on there. Thinking about the idea that Grey's anatomy has been on for 20 years or something like that.
So are these,
both of these shows are essentially a telanovela in a hospital. Am I right? I don't know.
I think, I definitely think that Grey's anatomy has more of that. Like they really pushed that romantic angle where it's a part of ER, but ER is a lot more about the interpersonal. Stuff within the ER and it's very patient driven.
And of course, like you're going to have at least two trauma events, every single episode.
Okay. So it's just like it's hospital action if there's this. Yeah,
pretty much. And a ridiculous amount of helicopter accidents. Just like every couple of seasons. There's a random helicopter accident.
There's one guy. Who gets his arm cut off by a helicopter. And then two seasons later gets crushed by a helicopter helicopters. Hate Paul McKrane.
That's really tragic.
Let's get back to Cobra.
I want to explore. I want to explore some of the themes, I guess we'll go. Not first off my brother's watching it. He called the other day to basically say you need to start watching the show to watch it because him and I often quote, karate kid too.
I think credit kid too. Yeah. What's weird.
It's I don't think I ever even watched a chronic kid three.
Did you see that one? Oh yeah, absolutely. Terry silver is an amazing eighties villain. Do yourself a favor. Watch that one. It, the stakes are, they try to make the stakes higher, which makes no sense because the second movie is literal fight to the right death.
Yeah. Yeah. Chose from here, his perspective, Daniel, literally, he's fighting for his life per se, but he's not trying to kill the other guy. And then in the third movie, it's about the tournament again. And it's okay. Yeah, it's hard to go from life or death to repeating is all Valley state champion or whatever.
So there's some bobbing and weaving, but Terry silver is a great villain.
So what did you want to talk about?
Specific. Your point about if you haven't seen the movies, my nephew who's 12.
He has to have seen, there are just
so many references to it. And even shots of it. And if you are a person that's turned off by media, that's obviously dated, then you're like a younger, maybe you're a younger person. I don't really, how many of you are listening to this, but if you're a younger person, then you may be turned off by just the references.
You know what I mean?
So I guess the main idea I want to explore with you is the idea of. I missed nastalgia shows like things that are directly. Just trying to hit you in the nostalgia feels. Yeah.
And this would be one of them. However, I think it does an excellent job.
Like the storytelling to me is great, but I can see how, from an outsider point of view, like I said, that the dated references and the, maybe not so great acting of some of the main
characters. Okay. Okay. In the last, what, 10 years there has been. A million reboots, a million, let's reach back and, redo things that were done, in the eighties.
And then you're seeing shows that, drop off and then three years later they're rebooting it with a completely new cast or whatever, the idea of a new gossip girl. Do we need that? Saved by the bell. This is now going to be like the fourth iteration of saved by the bell.
Just trying to recapture that magic from the original. How many was
screech in? Was he in all of them? Just one.
They, we did screech, no, I think screech was in all of them. He was in the original and then he was in the college years and then he came back toward the end of the new class. And it was like buildings assistant or something like that.
He is literally the only thing I can remember about
saved by the bell. Gotcha. He's not in the new show. I don't believe also that one is a that's a peacock premium. You can't get it with the free peacock. So commercials, you've got to pay them. You gotta pay and I'm just ha I got the Amazon prime because it gets me packages quickly, HBO, which comes with my cables, Disney plus I got the free trial and then now I can't live without it.
Now you're stuck. And it's on my phone bill, so I don't even see it. It's invisible. Hulu. I got bundled with my Spotify premium because I need my music in any my music to not have commercials, but between it and that's it so far. Oh. And Netflix, which my wife pays for it. So I don't see it.
So it's invisible. Yeah. That's a lot though. That's a lot of services. That's a lie if you're paying for cable and, in addition that's a lot.
So then adding, Peacock, which when I already pay for cable, which gives me the NBC and CBS all access, which I already pay for cable. And I got the CBS would I love to watch Jordan peals, Twilight zone?
Of course I would. What I loved to see the new Picard show. I didn't, I remember watching star Trek the next generation as a child, but I would be intrigued, but it's not. Elemental to who I am as a person. Whereas star Wars is yes.
Yeah. I feel the same way. Star Wars is essential. And I think we went over this.
I think we made some good points last time about why star Wars is still important and relevant, even though it's not technically the best. You know what I mean? So if you haven't listened to the last podcast, we go serious and we go deep. Make sure you listen to that episode as well.
I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and say, listen to all of them. Why not
listen to all the podcasts, listen to all of them before they get taken down.
Oh, my God. Just on the YouTube, they'll get saying that. Yeah.
Yeah. I might get, yeah, we might have to re upload them edited. They got a lot of rules over there on the YouTube. A lot of, yeah, a lot of censorship
put it this way. A lot of words. You can't say it. You can't say if you want to make money.
Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. If you just want to put out content and don't care that, if you get that nickel every thousand views.
Yeah. That's true. And we're not like, monetized
but I feel like it's still influences the way that the algorithm works. You know what I mean?
Cause it knows what words are in there. It's not going to push videos that, you know,
and just so everybody who's listening is clear. We're talking about very innocuous words, like is in our title. And yet they're like, nah, can't do it. Yeah. You can't
say and still get monetized.
wild. Some of the curse words we use
on occasion. Oh yeah. Definitely. Some of those, definitely some of those. So there's definitely those definitely hurt help something. Yeah. I don't know,
but we'll have to cut them out of the YouTube version. So if you want the unedited version, make sure you're listening on Spotify or something.
And if you want to see the the clean all ages version you can watch it on the YouTube and speaking of Spotify, It's coming. Ben, we have a
song coming out. Oh yes. It will
be out before the next episode of this. So this will be our last episode before it comes out. I'll put the pre-saved link in the show notes and in the description and on the site.
And yeah we came up with the band name and everything.
Yeah. Dual paradigm.
Pretty save it. And I'm excited. I'm excited to actually make new
Yeah. That's it.
Are we going to I don't know how we're going to transition to Sonic
Yeah. So that was the thing that I watched this week. Actually, I watched it yesterday. I watched the new Sonic, the hedgehog movie, and I got to say. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it was
I had a great time. Lots of laughs.
Yeah, no, it's a loose 90. So it's not it's not a long haul.
You don't gotta settle in too much. Pop it on, have some fun. It was a well executed video game movie.
I would agree. I, Ryan, what does the what is his name? Sorry, Ryan, take two. Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds. He is
not in this movie.
It's not him. No. What movie? Oh, peek
at you thinking pick at you?
I haven't seen Sonic then what? I got confused
because she was also a video game.
Cut all this out. Holy crap. So you got to give this
in this hilarious. This is wonderful. We can lead this. We're no longer friends. I'm easily confused. No, this is based off the certainly mid nineties saying what is the plot he has to get rings?
So the plot is early on in, in Sonic's life. The owl person who raised him naturally, she's Hey, look, you have crazy power. Okay. And as long as you have crazy power, somebody is going to be looking to explore you. And then some some people find out where they are and she protects him while he gets away.
And how she does that is she gives him a sack of those rings. And then with those rings, he can transport himself to other worlds. He can basically bounce around and then, keep himself safe. So he ends up in Montana.
He befriends the local sheriff police officer played by James Marsden, Cyclops in the original X-Men movies. And you
say it out loud. When you
say it out loud, it sounds a little suspect, but it's a story about friendship and,
and rings. How many rings did she give him?
Was it seven?
No, it's a bunch. It's a bunch. It's an undisclosed amount. And Jim Carrey plays Dr. Robotnik who is a no, he is a government contractor who is sent to Montana to figure out the the source of a crazy energy spike, spoiler alert, it's Sonic and becomes obsessed with figuring out.
Basically what the owl said that he's going to try to exploit Sonic's power and then
like a magical, a super CG.
It's definitely CG cause it's, it's a balloon blue edge cartoonish, hedgehog.
But I mean his power is it like
He's got, but then there's like an electronic element to it where if he like if he.
He has an energy pulse
if he runs too fast, like the power goes out.
Exactly. And so it turns out he's, he's a super conductor of energy and so Robotnik wants to exploit that and shows his origin. And Jim Carey, man, it is like classic. ACE Ventura level, Jim Carey.
He is in all of his physical comedy, goofy voices, just all of it, all of that glory. He brings it. Jim Carey does a great job of it. You can tell that they just were like, all right, Jim, you do, you here's the script. You do. You enjoy it. Good luck out there.
Yeah. Should we talk about the obvious thing here that we've got on the screen?
Oh, yeah. So this was one of the reasons why I was like, I'm going to watch this movie no matter what, because the internet got real mad about that photo on the left in the initial trailer, thought that. Sonic's design was too a little bit too much uncanny Valley, a little bit too much humanoid with the teeth.
Yeah. It was like a cross between, for those of you not on YouTube, it's a cross between an actual hedgehog and a human and some kind of plush toy.
is like hyper-realistic
it's, it is yeah, it's very tragic and scary. It's scary. Yeah. It's a little scary.
So then they delayed the movie by three months to go through and more cartoonishly design.
The main character. So he looks like he did in the game, a little bit more like he did in the game. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna willfully suspend your disbelief for a blue three-foot hedgehog that runs crazy fast and wears red sneakers. Yeah. And has, EMP like qualities then I think you can deal with the fact that the first isn't naturalistic enough.
Yeah. I definitely looking at the. The earlier draft, it's just something that's really creepy about the eyes. Like they're too far apart or something like, man, it's just weird.
if you have, I would say I like, you probably seen it, but if you haven't seen this just look
it up it's yeah.
Yeah. Quick Google image, search will bring it up. Oh my
God. Yeah. It's a good thing. They waited the three months, I think, too. Know, redo his look.
Absolutely. And, I, is it a bunch of, adult is it these like Uber fans?
It's, in that same, like nostalgia kind of way of being like that's not the Sonic, the hedgehog I know. Or is it just no, that's creepy and we don't like it.
I think it's fair to say. It's just creepy. This is I don't have words. Like I'm looking at this picture and it's a, it takes my breath away a little bit.
Yeah, it's definitely like it's if you put a human child on the left of the first draft, you would say that the middle one is one morphing into the other. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I get that.
Well, so now that they've, they went through, they put the time and the energy and they're like, Hey, you know what? We're going to listen to you guys. And and we're going to, we're going to change it up. And then they did, and I want to applaud those people for making that decision.
And the movie was good. Ben Schwartz voices, a voice of Sonic. He does a wonderful job. He's hilarious. John Ralphio on parks and rec. If you're familiar. No,
I know I should have watched it based on just the amount of times people say you should watch it, but I don't know, man. Like I was just something about it.
I don't know. You got to push through that first season. Yeah. Just start with season two. How
many seasons are there at this point? Oh five. So I do have a show. I've got a show. We can talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, let me pull it up here. What is it? Lute, Luton. Luton. Is that what it is?
I don't know this.
Lupine? , Lupin Lou Paul, this guy,
he, this guy
is it's based on a classic French novel.
Okay. Is it in subtitles? Nope.
Nope, they overdubbed it in English and it takes a little bit to get adjusted to, but it's not that bad. It's actually pretty sinked up. And
do you prefer subtitles to do
overdubs, like to actually watch what's going on? Gotcha. So it's based on a novel that takes place back in the day about a gentleman thief.
this modern thief, it takes all of his inspiration from this guy. And so he's like a con man thief guy, but he is just
a copycat situation
kinda. He just takes all of his. He's had some tragedy in his life. So all of his positive influence is actually from this gentleman thief.
And yeah, so he gets his way of being from this book. And it's it's pretty, pretty amazing stuff. Like we couldn't stop watching and we're like, what is this? Let's watch this. And then we ended up watching the whole. Season or whatever they call it. And it's something, man. That writing .
How many episodes? Very clever. I think it's only five. Oh, that's very short. It's just so well done. Written the characters, very like advanced, like some of it's a little unbelievable because they're doing things that like. He disguises himself and things like that.
So it's just, so why would you put it in like a heist genre?
For sure. Yeah. So it's in that, like ocean's 11. I wish it's 11 in
the heist type. Yeah, blue Paul L U P I N Lupin. I don't
looping. I can't believe it's not about werewolves. It's not about
no. Nope. It's very good like I said, it's based on the book, they incorporate the book into the film and it's just very cleverly done.
I don't want to give anything away cause it's like all the good stuff is spoilery and it's worth watching. It's worth a watch. Cool. Yeah. Put that on your,
put that on the list, but then on the list on the fridge. Yeah, it's good stuff.
Had another big undertaking this week.
no, actually it ties into Cobra, Kai and Sonic the hedgehog. Just a
little. Okay. Yeah. You wear a watch. You have to dress up as a. No video game character while practicing Karate.
No, actually, no, let's actually, let's go back a little bit. Let's talk about that. Why don't video game movies work for the most part
because there's no plot a lot and it's video game is always overly simplistic.
Not all the way. Okay. I'm always saying it's never, always, but typically it's pretty simplistic. You've got to go to get the thing to do the thing. It's just a bunch of. It's a bunch of things that you need to get McGuffin. It's just MacGuffin. It's you need to get the McGuffin to get to the McGuffin, to get to the MacGuffin. And then the final MacGuffin is harder to get to.
Yeah, you got to go beat this boss to get this thing to go be this boss, to get this past again as a
It doesn't make a great movie as we've seen.
And, there's a movie that I feel like really just went all in on that as a storytelling formula, maybe a silent Hill. Oh, did you see the silent
Hill movie? Can I say rise of Skywalker? Because
a little bit. Yeah.
No, I haven't
seen silent. Yeah.
I never really played the game, but it definitely has that feel of like, all right, here's the setup. And then our one character is going to go meet up with this person and then they have to defeat this mid-level boss. And then they got to go defeat this other mid-level boss. And like friend gets dropped off along the way and they pick up a new person and then, and it's just here to here.
It can definitely work. It can definitely work. You just have to do it. You have to execute.
It also, wasn't a great movie. That's the other thing, like it, it held very strictly to the form, but, So I feel like
Mandalorian kind of follows that, but seems to pull it off in a way that is unlike most movies, when they follow this sort of, you have to get the thing to get the thing and, Oh, here's the thing that you just happen to need, it's yeah.
So what are we talking
about? A video game movies and why they don't work? I think some of it is also just not understanding. The concept of why people like the game, like the super Mario movie with Dennis Hopper back in the nineties, that was just like pure garbage and not understanding
people don't take into account.
There's, there are chemical reactions that occur in your brain that are equivalent to doing drugs when you play a game. Definitely. And if for some reason, the movie is not doing that for you. Then you're going to be let down by the movie because your expectations are going to be high, and especially in order to do that with a film, I feel like what makes a good film is always like characters and character development and characters evolving as, wrenches get thrown in and how they handled the situation. That's what makes a good story. And if. The wrenches thrown in don't evolve the character in any way, the character same stays the same before and after which your character typically would, in a video game, it would just be the same character, yeah. They don't really evolve
well, that's true. Yeah. They basically are what they are. They're already. There, the thing is the best version of
themselves. Speaking of best version, I'm going to go somewhere. We didn't write this. Yeah. Hi Republic.
Yes. Do you know
anything about this comic book that came out?
I. I, so there was like four things all released on the same day. It was like a, the comic book there were like, and then two novels and then like a Y a kind of bookish, like a real like middle ground kind of piece. And I thought about getting the main novel on the I books. Just to start down that journey, but then knowing myself, I was like, then I'm going to have to read the next book.
And I'm just going to get into it in a way that I just don't know that I have the energy for yeah,
There's been a lot of backlash on the internet about this. I don't know if you're familiar. No. The comic, the first issue of the comic came out and the characters are.
This they're like, here's the character and she is the greatest JEDI ever, and here is the character and she's the best young Jedi ever. And it's what? There's
no. Do we think that's a function of like it being the high Republic? So they're supposed to be, this is the height of
Yeah, but they say power. They say that, but then the character has all these flaws. Like anger and all this kind of stuff. That's in like the character and yeah, I haven't read it. So I'm just repeating what I've seen or heard about. So I don't want to, what do you mean?
I don't know, trusted or anything, but from what I understand, it's it's hard to the characters. Aren't very likable. That's too bad. Just they tell you what they are and then they're kinda not.
Yeah. They don't show you the same thing.
Yeah. It's not about, yeah. They don't show you the thing that they're saying that they are.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's a little
this is problematic. Storytelling is what it is. Yeah, and I think this is the comic. This is the comic, which also, I believe has some of the same characters as the novel. So interesting. Yeah. But yeah. I didn't read it myself. I was, I wanted to read it and I looked at the cover and I was just like, this art kind of sucks. And it just looks like a kids cartoon, which I know star Wars is for kids, but like ma you, you know who the fan base is and it's w it goes all the way up to 40 or 50.
I wonder if it's one of those things where it's like, all so the comic maybe if they're aiming for a certain age group with the comic than they are life, they're like, okay, if you're an adult, then we expect you to read the novel. I don't know.
I have no idea. I have no idea. Or, maybe it's just all a test balloon for the eventual. Hi Republic, TV show, just to like set, set up some version of the world so that they can drop Easter eggs in it, I don't know. Yeah. It's
it sounds to me like a train wreck.
It hasn't sold very good. From what I understand, like th their numbers were artificially inflated because comic book shops had to order scribers. No, they had to order a certain number of them to get the special cover. So it's you have to order 60 regular ones to get one special cover or whatever.
So they're ordering all these extra ones, hoping they'll make, it's sad that they do that to comic book shops because,
yeah. They're not huge moneymakers,
the entity that you are, you're putting all the pressure on them. And I don't know, man, like I just had.
I don't know, I don't wanna get negative in this pocket.
Okay. Look, some, we haven't read them. It's just an initial reaction, maybe. They're great. Yeah. Maybe they're great. At the same time, like I've got, there's a comic, there's a star Wars comic somewhere on this shelf.
And I might've bleeped through it once, maybe twice.
All right. So you watched Cobra Kai. This week. I watched Sonic the hedgehog and loop, and the loop in
lupine it's worth watching. It's really great.
Go ahead. So also did a full rewatch of the Lord of the rings special editions this week.
Yep. The areas Orlando bloom in all of his glory. Wow a undertaking man. It was the special editions add a half hour to the runtime. I think the last one adds 45 minutes. So a three hour movie becomes a three and a half and then two towers is just under four. And then I think a return to the King is four hours and like 10 minutes, something like that.
That's a lot of Man. It drastically changes how you plan your day because you can't start the movie at seven. You just can't. No, you gotta start at five 30. So then you gotta are you going to pause for dinner? Are you gonna might as well have a super early dinner so that you could watch said movie?
I did on recur return of the King day. I did make second breakfast. So we had a, we had breakfast for dinner. Second breakfast was wonderful. Had Yeah. And then had that informed how first breakfast went, speaking of
breakfast. Oh my God. My wife made Thai pancakes last night or
What does that even, what does that even mean?
a particular type of dough. It's not the same as our pancake dough
It's a little more like.
It's got some texture to it. Like it's I don't know, choose the right word, but I would say chewy, but it's like it's so
does it have a grit to it?
Yeah. Yeah. It has got a little crunch, like Tuohy, but with crunch at the same time. Huh it's and you have to cook them in oil. So it's got a little more like you have to like deep fry them or just like pan fry.
Okay. Yeah. So it's like pan fried. Like crunchy slash chewy dough.
And with some pandan flavor, it's like a, an a plant, a pandan is like an agent plant that's in a lot of their dishes just has a particular aroma about it. Oh my God. It's so good. It's so good. I was so happy yesterday, eating that. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, we because we had some not so great Mexican the day before.
Now do you put syrup on that kind of pancake? Or is it just, you just go with the natural flavors?
I think you might be able to,
We did not opt for the syrup yesterday.
That's a good
Are you a syrup? Are you a syrup guy in general with normal pancakes?
Yes, I am a actual maple syrup person.
Yup. Yup. Dig it.
Real maple syrup. And unless it's
if it's chocolate chip pancakes, sometimes I'll just go all out.
Am I saying syrup wrong? I'm saying same. Country-style syrup
I'm showing my a little Syrp redneck
S y rup
syrup. I will have your finest maple syrup.
What can tell, look,
welcome to the syrup free podcast
this syrup podcast
that we'll have to, we'll have to come up with something else to call the podcast.
So yeah so one of the things that I've found interesting about watching Lord of the rings.
Was now, this was the first time I've rewatched after reading the books. So now I know how much was cut, which, for a 12 hour experience total in three films, they still cut a lot, but, and I'll tie this back to the whole Cobra, Kai idea of constantly rebooting things. Amazon prime is actively working on a new Lord of the rings series.
So they're going to take, I assume they will just do three seasons. That's what makes sense. Do it,
it makes zero season because it was so epically executed. I don't know if it was perfect, but it's up there. Yeah. I bar it's a very, h i gh bar absolutely come in a little short. You're not, nobody's going to watch it.
You can't be a little below the bar. Nobody's good. I already have this,
and the, yes, it was made. Like fellowship came out 19 years ago, 20 years ago, 19 is years ago. So that's a pretty significant amount of time.
Yeah, that's fair. I'm just saying the bar is very high.
More time has passed from then to now than time between return of the Jedi and the Phantom menace coming out. So that's wild.
It's just it's a classic and it, the bar is high. It was superbly made at the time. And they've got to have an extremely, how can you have another angle?
Is there enough content in the
there's enough content to really hit. Hit some new beats that do believe that is true, but at the end of the day, it's the same story. Yeah, it is. It's Frodo and Sam going to take the ring and then everybody else fighting battles along the way. There's definitely the, in the books, there's more of a, this is a defining moment for the four habits.
Which takes like that each step along the way for them kind of builds them up and builds their character to where at the end, after, more door has been destroyed there's some stuff that happens in the Shire and they're able to take care of it without needing outside help. So there's a certain like self-sufficiency angle that I think could be explored a lot more.
many angle they could explore is like the realism of it. Like maybe this actually happened somewhere. Maybe this is a historically accurate somewhat. I don't know. I don't know if they'll go there, like they could
yeah. I dunno.
also interesting is, named that for a reason, I think.
You think there's some
I don't want to go too far here.
Seeds, some seeds. You think there's some seeds? Yeah. You need some seeds in there that grow.
It could be, could grow into a plant. It could be an explanation of an alternate explanation of our current
It could be an allegory to a prior situation.
It could be. Huh?
Yeah. All right. And we'll leave it at. That
Yeah, it's sad that it's, you know what I, as I get older, it's sad that I'm getting more from fictional media than I'm getting from the news, for instance.
I feel that way. I know it may or may not be true. But as I get older, I get personal truth, from fictional stories, I connect with them more than with
Yeah. I think there is a, there is an element of storytelling. Within, I don't know the human experience that touches deeper than most other interactions how we get to know each other as people is essentially.
Okay. Tell me a story. And then if I tell you a story, you tell me a story, the storyteller gets to imply certain things about who they are as a person. And helps each of us define who we are to other people, what we aspire to be. Yeah. All I'm trying to say is storytelling matters.
I think you just started a hashtag.
For real w when I was going to UFL, there was a guy that came in there was a group that came in from South Africa that was doing a play. And it was like a joint kind of deal between the university and A couple of years prior some people from the school had gone to South Africa and performed the same show with these people, and then they were coming back or they were coming here so that we could do that same show again.
And I met this dude and just in the course of, introductions and Hey, who are you? What's your deal? He was just like, yeah, I'm a storyteller. And I'm like, Excuse me, what is a I am a storyteller title? I'm like, that's wild. I love it. Now to make ends meet, he also had to do some other stuff.
fast food line at rallies.
No, he was actually very good at like making things. So he, he would so it was almost like an art project. He w he would take like the. The cardboard box that you would get like a six pack of beer in, or like a 12 pack of Barron. So it would be like this Budweiser cardboard box and he would make a hat out of it.
Okay. So it's like
a hat that you could wear, but it was, but it has, Budweiser all over it or whatever. So it's it's very interesting, very interested cat and I hope he's doing well. Yeah,
me too. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if he like, sells that stuff like on Etsy or something?
I don't think it's that high-tech I think it was, but, he'd show up and be like, Oh, Hey, I made this. Do you want to buy? Yeah,
that's cool. Yeah. That's I think that's the way that we should. Like people should hustle that way. It shouldn't be like frowned upon or anything because that's a legit way to make a living.
You're creating something out of something that, would otherwise be useless and
yeah. That thing was destined for a landfill. . And
it offers value to somebody I think. Yeah. You know that shouldn't be overlooked.
No, not at all. That's all I got for that.
So yeah. Lord of the rings, Amazon prime, they're doing a new one. I don't know that's warranted.
I'll watch the first episode, and I'm definitely gonna watch it, if they come at it from a different angle, I'm in, or if they somehow do it better, which I just.
It's hard for me to imagine a better job
and maybe I have a bad taste in my mouth because the hobbit really didn't work for me. Like that trilogy should have been two films and they shouldn't have relied as much on CG as they did. I feel like the F the Lord of the rings movies were so good at the practical effects and all of those orcs looked super real.
And then in the Hobbit films, they no longer look real. They look like a video game. It's like they
just, their budget was.
Yeah, I think it was just one of those things of they made the decision and they were like, okay, we're gonna, we're just gonna do it all digitally. And that'll give us, opportunities to do some Wilder things, but those Wilder things don't.
Have that same look of the practical effect. I think that's also part of the reason why we like the Mandalorian so much. It's all of those practical effect affects. Everybody loves baby Yoda because he's a practical puppet. If he was a digital thing, I don't think we would all love him as much.
Right now. There are plenty of digital effects in the mandalorian , but yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. But like the way that they do it with the volume, which that thing is wild. That's great, man. That is cool. Speaking
You're gonna watch queuing up for the new Marvel one to five days, five days. Did you watch the wanda recap.
The legends thing or whatever. No, I did not. I will just because why not? Yeah. It's all six minutes or something.
you hyped up a little bit.
Yeah. I saw age of Ultron was trending yesterday. I think that's because of this. I think that movie could always use a little bit more love. I thought it was, I thought it was a lot of fun. James Spader
was ultra and it really got to me. It just didn't look.
It didn't look real enough. Yeah. It's look a little too cartoony. I know.
I get that. It's something I definitely get that. That's something that's always bother me about Marvel movies. It's they're not consistent with their quality of animation. It's they'll send out like one scene to be animated by one company.
And another company comes back and one looks like a cartoon and one looks photo realistic, it's just and then I cut between them and it's Oh, okay.
Yeah, I get that. It's a little
weird. But, other than that, I still loved the movies. Yeah.
Yeah. One of the things that I thought about a lot while watching Lord of the rings was how, when that movie came out, I didn't know who half those people were.
To delineate that passage of time, because just thinking about age of Ultron and the fact that Andy circus is in it, And when Lord of the rings came out, I had no idea who Andy Serkis was and now he is and think about all the things that,
he's the mocap,
he's the mo-cap guy.
He made the mocap jungle book, movie, really became the guy for it.
And that's actually what I was talking about is like that technology is available. Basically for anybody now, like we can do, you can use your webcam to motion capture, like animated stuff.
We could interesting. We could theoretically make something fairly easily. I, I might have to buy some software or whatever, but once you get it, you don't, you can make whatever wild. Yeah.
Yeah. Mocap. Andy circus got a hooker. Orlando bloom didn't know that guy.
I didn't even know. He wasn't blonde didn't even know he wasn't blonde until pirates of the Caribbean. Was
that after? Yeah, that was after. Okay. So he got us a little while he got his debut and then he made a career out of it.
Yeah. Yeah. Elizabeth town.
Oh, that was the movie. Oh
It's just down the street. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of which, shout out to people in Louisville, I might tag this whole podcast Louisville
King of Louisville, have you watched this not great show on Fox starring my MBA, Alec, that supposedly takes place in Louisville.
No. Nope. You didn't catch that one. No, it's okay. It's not really missing much. It's it's fine. It's a multicam, it's a multicam sitcom in that like big bang theory two and a half men kind of realm laugh track, that kind of thing. It's not my cup of tea.
So it, it could be very good for that type of thing that I'm not into. But there's some little Louisville I watched the first episode. There's some Louisville references, in the back, which is
nice. Have somebody come out here and shoot some B roll. So they have some like Moodle back.
No, there's just like a They're at a bar and there's like a, there's like a ULand a UK logo
thing. And they don't even have shots of RuPaul in the show.
Yeah, there's a, they talk about the Brown hotel. Like the main plot, like the AA plot. I wonder if
we know the person that wrote this?
I don't think so. Cause I remember seeing that person's name and knowing that they're from Louisville and being like, no, I don't know who that is. Maybe that person is strange, but weird more power to them. Keep them in the second episode, there is a,
or famous for now is kind of garbage.
It's not great. So not the best, not great, it, bunch of multicultural people, all getting along in the city of Louisville, that being a part of the show, I'm for it. Yeah, that's great.
Yeah, actually, yeah. Might have to start watching this. Yeah, it's great.
So we can go, I'm going to watch the next steps.
I'm going to keep watching it. It has some Fleabag look straight to the camera. Oh yeah. A little too much, but it's definitely it's definitely like a a watered down. Fleabag. That's
cool. Okay. Now it sounds halfway interesting. Yeah.
She owns a cat cafe,
But we don't have a cat cafe.
I think so somebody I know, went to a cat cafe around. Cause I think it was my cousin. My cousin went to a cat cafe. Took
her kids. Yeah. Probably not the most popular destination right now.
You heard or? No, I don't know. Yeah.
Go and do if you have allergies, you're already wearing a mask, so that's good.
Oh, you know what else I watched this week? What's that? On Disney plus I watched the the first episode of net, the alien talk show Henson Muppets. That
It's fine. It's fine. It, show me a Muppet doing stuff and I'm going to laugh. So it's an alien
talk show. So does it like it take place in space a little bit?
it takes place on the spaceship and the guests get beamed up
Dinosaurs by any chance.
No, not yet. No. It's Andy Richter. It's like famous people. It's Amy Richter and Gilly and Jacobs. This is like actual people
a cartoon puppet, talking to a Muppet and an alien Muppet with four hands and he's got a sidekick.
And then there's tiny little Muppet type thing.
I dunno. It just seems weird. You know what I mean?
Weird in the sense of. What because like Henson stuff, because all Henson stuff is weird.
Would you show them the dark crystal
a hundred percent? I can't believe that. didn't he get renewed? Yeah, you would.
Yeah. You would dark crystals of may. Actually. I still haven't seen, I haven't seen, I haven't seen my Netflix. It's
dude. It was because I wanted to watch the original first and he's just, like it just didn't line up timing wise and it just got pushed to the back.
I've seen the original a billion times, but I wanted to rewatch it so that it was like super fresh. Yeah, I'm watching and but it's a pretty cool,
it's it seems like you alternate.
I'm not really like super dependent on the timeline.
no. It's. It's its own thing. Yeah, oh my God.
Okay. It's wonderful. The movie was wonderful. Yeah. All day long, man. Yeah. Oh, and then camel looking dudes. Aw.
Yeah. There's wonderful looking dudes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Mark Hamill plays one of the characters and
Mark Hamill. Yeah.
Yeah. I also love that on Twitter when he signs things. Yeah, he does Mar and then a picture of a camel
and the what are the bad guys called? The Skeksis yeah.
Oh gosh, I could
it's so good. Let's go back to what we're watching next week. We're going to watch Wanda vision and so make sure. If you, if somehow you made it this far in the podcast, make sure you watch next week. Cause we're going to go. We're going to hit spoiler town.
Yep. We are going to go next week. Recap mode.
Yeah. We'll have something to actually talk about. Oh, I'm struggling. I wish this was more funny. No, this was fun. Yeah. It was fun. I had fun talking to you. I really enjoy talking to you, but I just, I don't know if anybody enjoys listening.
Man who knows, who cares, knows here's what we're doing.
We're telling stories, brother. I'm just telling the stories. She's done
stories on stories, too. Guys, telling
stories about stories of which are being told to us. It's a matter man.
Got that. Got that? Citrine
yeah. I don't know if it's not working.
I don't know, man. I don't know if it's a wishing stone or not. I don't know. I'm trying to get some
look, throw it on, use it all.
You just painted the wall. Yeah,
absolutely. That's whatever. Yeah.
Thanks for listening to the ITE podcast. Thank you on the ITE network. Is this is this. Let's
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yeah, no, I'm cutting all of that.
Yeah. It's just beep.
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