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Rerelease of Avatar? Snyder Cut Preview, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Superman & Lois: ITE? Podcast E22 

 March 16, 2021

By  Is This Entertainment

On this episode of the Is This Entertainment? Podcast, Jacob and Ben talk about the Justice League Snyder Cut and Falcon & Winter Soldier being released in the same week.

Avatar rerelease in Chinese theaters, will we ever get the sequels?

Jacob starts the Superman and Lois CW show and Ben does a deep dive on the Twilight series.

T-Swift Article:

https://ite.page.link/taylor

Transcript

There's a place for that story. And then it just went weird and just it's like, they forgot what made Terminator good.

They remembered for a minute when they did that show. The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

, that was the thing where every week I was like, what are they going to do next? It's just intense, they continue the same theme of being chased by the terminators. And John Connor being the one to start outwitting them and stuff like that , it was a really great , continuation of that story.

And , it's just, they were like, Oh no, we're going to cancel this. What people are watching it. It's good. We should probably cancel it. It doesn't make any sense. 📍 We were recording?

In just a moment moment.

We're recording. This is it. Hey, this is the ITE Podcast. And We're

back and we're back. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome this entertainment podcast

. We have a lot of fun in store for you today. We're going to talk about all kinds of thought provoking subjects, such as sorry.

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know about, I don't know about thought provoking. Maybe. Hopefully we get there. How you doing, man?

I'm struggling. I'm struggling a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. , I did my exercises this morning. Didn't help.

Nice.

Oh no. Yeah. I had my coffee. Do some like yoga stretching, then I do pushups and if I haven't murdered myself, then I do some crunches. And that's really it. It's pretty simple, basic, , cool.

Because I started moving. I only started doing pushups, maybe two and a half months ago. And at the beginning I could barely do 10. So now I've gotten to the point where I can do 20 to 30 at a time. Typically half of them are the knee pushups. And then, and then I take a break and then I do more like another set of 20 or 30.

Then it goes down usually 20. And I just do that over and over until I can't do it. Yeah. That's it. And , I feel a little stronger, like overall, like I feel better, like my posture normally is better and , yeah, that kind of thing. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about, .

Yeah. So you're doing a bunch of pushups and then going until you can't go then taking a break, then doing more and then.

I feel stronger overall, but this is like fitness advice coming from somebody who has never been fit and probably still isn't. Who knows,

Yeah. I fell off the wagon. I got the food poisoning , what that was like two weeks ago.

And , yeah, it kinda knocked me out for two days. And I was like, Oh, I just don't want to work out the next day. And then just like being sedentary for a little bit. And it has snowballed

a little, I skipped two days. And so maybe that's why today was so rough. Like I couldn't even get to my normal number.

Like I had been like hitting about 70 pushups , typically, and I've gotten all the way up to 90 and now I'm down to like today. I only did two sets. I just did 40 I'm just like meh, you know, just below average today.

Hey man. It's all right. Look. It's a little gloomy outside, just a easy breezy Sunday.

We don't have to take it too hard.

Yeah, no, you know, I'll ramp it up all week and I'll, hopefully I'll hit some, hit a hundred. That's been my goal forever. Hopefully I'll hit 109, then I'll have a new goal of doing a hundred actual pushups and not half knee and half regular.

. So we'll get there eventually. Yeah,

that's cool. Yeah. I've been on a , trying to eat healthier kick. Not that I've not that I've been like, not eating healthy healthily. But we've decided since it's a little warmer to re-introduce salads, into the diet. So I've been trying to do at least two, maybe three nights a week where it's a salad and a protein kind of a deal.

So that's been nice, but then I made fried chicken last night and wrecked everything.

. That'll do it. Like we did the same thing. We've been eating good every Saturday we've been doing steak and potatoes. Like we cook ourselves. So it's it it was just really great. And , with a little bit of salad, so steak, salad potato all the major food groups.

Perfect. And then then yesterday we messed it all up. We did , Chinese and we both feel a little over MSGed,a little cooked.

Yup, yep. Little yeah, I get it. I totally get it. Hey, so fun thing that you did this week. Oh yeah. It's up

on our website. , I wrote the , just a little blurb about , the , the Taylor Swift doing... redoing her first five albums.

I think eventually she's going to do her six when she can. But yeah, just a little blurb on here, like why she doesn't own her rights to our own recordings, stuff like that. Basically any label deal you're signing away, all your rights to re to your recording and then they give you 20% of the income or less back, and then you have to pay off the advance with that 20%.

So it's a , pretty rough situation. Anytime somebody signs a record label deal. That's just my warning

if like when, so like when you and I put something out as dual paradigm and it's on Spotify right now, or one song. Yeah, it is on Spotify. Yes, it is. Now, with our agreement through Spotify, they have no ownership.

They're just distributors. Yeah. Spotify has. They're just distributing. Okay. Yeah.

But the way that they pay you royalties is that's the messed up part. So like they have a pool of money that's given to them by the users theoretically, they should divide that pool up evenly based on the number of listens that you get, but they don't, they put it into buckets.

So there's a bucket for major label artists, these artists on this label, a bucket for this. And then the scraps get distributed to us folk. Yeah. Which is why there's that whole thing we

got. If we got 10 million listens to one song and Taylor Swift got 10 million listens to one song, she would get a much bigger pay day than we did.

Gotcha. Gotcha.

Yeah. Which is really sad. I didn't even realize that was the way it worked until recently. I thought everybody got like an even, but now they put it in buckets, which is really unfair. Yeah. , there's a lot of new stuff going on with audio. I don't know if you're following any of this, like NFT , cryptocurrency

stuff, but that's a scratching the surface on understanding what that is.

Yeah.

It's like for

whatever to me,

logically it makes no sense, but for whatever reason is taking off. So you and I, we re we can record a song and then we can say, okay, even though the song could be copied and duplicated, we can say, Oh no, there's only just this one version of it. We can make a limited number of versions of it that are the official versions, like a certificate, if you will.

So like you're getting that poster signed basically. And so it's like a piece of artwork hanging on a wall is what they're trying to equate it to. The only thing is it's still digital, but for whatever reason, if you say there's only 10 of them, then there's only 10 of them. And then the price of that thing can be more and more people bid on it essentially, so that's, what's going on. So I think it's something we should look into more.

Yeah, what's confusing to me is , the idea that how I came to know about this was through like sports highlights from the NBA and basically somebody turning almost it being like the modern baseball card, really.

Yeah. Of here's this highlight dunk and it's 10, second clip. And maybe it has this added like little effect, but I'm like, can't anybody just find the video of that dunk. Yeah.

Yeah. But if you don't have the token or the certificate, then it's not the official dunk video. Right. You see what I'm saying?

Gotcha. That's yeah. It really makes no sense seal of approval,

but it's just, people are buying into the seal of approval. Yeah. It's really, that's all it is. It's like you say, there's only 10 of these seals and are a hundred of these seals or a thousand of these seals and supposedly there's more value to it because there's uh...what's the word I'm looking for?

No, there's a scarcity. Scarcity. Yeah. That's it like fake scarcity. Yeah. But it's real because there's only so many, there's only so many

tokens the thing, and we're creating that's

wild. Yeah. What's really cool about this for artists is that we can make a song once, put it out, say there's only a hundred tokens of it.

Somebody can buy it, say they buy for 10 cents or whatever. But then later they decide to sell their official song to somebody else. And then they sell it for 20 cents. As the artists,

we can...almost like the wu-tang

album, but here's the cool thing for artists we can put in a royalty so that every time it gets sold, we get 10% back.

So as it approaches a higher number, and that's how these artists are becoming just all of a sudden wealthy, because some of these guys are selling for 10,000, 20,000, $40,000, and they're getting a 10% kickback each time it gets sold. So the artist is really benefiting , in a major way. The trick to getting people to buy it.

I don't understand what that is. Like, why are some NFTs? They said at 10 cents where some NFTs go to, 50,000 y'all are. That, that trick, it's probably worth experimenting with a little bit,

yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So is there like a website?

There's a few, there's a few of these things going on. But yeah , it's a thing I think we should both do some research on it and maybe we'll have a, a song. Maybe we just release it as an NFT, we'll see,

let's get on the cutting edge. Why

not? It's worth try. And the thing that's weird is people are doing this with images and digital art and stuff, and it's somebody can just draw a smiley face or whatever and get, $10,000. It's just the weirdest, right?

I guess if there's a market for it. I don't understand it, it's there.

Absolutely.

Yeah. It does feel like a pyramid scheme, like the people that got on at first are gonna make more money than the people that get on it later, in a sense because the, the artists with the track record have already, they made a name for themselves or whatever.

So they're the top artists, we'll see, it'll be fun.

Yeah, and I have to start paying more attention

And, , we, you can do, like an NFT version of the song, like we could release another version of the song that we have, which is we could do like an acoustic version of the song or a, add an extra verse or whatever. And that could be the NFT token version, so there's all kinds of ways to do it. Yeah. Where are we at?

Yeah, let's it's this is a big week coming up. We've got two, two big premieres going on one on the Disney plus one in the HBO max world. So big streaming week Snyder cut, coming out and then Falcon, and winter soldier coming out like the next day, coming up against each other on this.



I keep seeing trailers for the Snyder cut, but I don't actually watch the trailers. I'm the worst at this. Really

cause I'm like, I want to, even though I've seen the first version of the movie, it's so wild that I'm like, Oh, here we go. Another version of the same movie.

I don't understand why I'm excited about it. I don't understand , has this ever happened before? I know people like the director's kind of blade runner more than the theatrical release to the point where you can't even get the theatrical release anymore. It's it

shouldn't be a thing, but it is I think it's just, people's excitement for this movie is the excitement we had when it first came out.

Because the stuff in the trailers from the first time the movie was supposed to be released is the stuff that we're going to actually see instead of, what we got, we got the big letdown.

man. Has anybody fallen off in the last, what? Nine years? More than just Sweden. Think about 2012, that dude was on top of the world when the Avengers came out, like that guy could literally write his own checks.

Could do whatever he wanted. He got me tooed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know all the details, but

yeah. Yeah. Basically okay. So it's a couple of things. One His onset presence is generally toxic. Like he has a tendency to basically just like talk shit about people all the time and does that to pit people against each other.

And, maybe it's to try to get, to get a solid performance out of people. I don't know. But just people from every show he's ever worked on coming out of the woodwork and saying, yeah, he said some really terrible stuff. And he was not a pleasant person to be around and made me feel bad about myself.

So so there's that right? Then there's also , his ex-wife was basically like, Hey, this guy created all of these like positive female heroes with Buffy. And , what was that other show? Firefly

found that it wasn't w/ Elisha Dushku , Oh

not Buffy that one. Yeah. Either way. And she was like he's gotten this reputation as a, as a good, you know, A good guy who promotes female characters.

Yeah. Pro woman, and she was like, so he's been cheating on me, X, Y, and Z for the last, however many years, he's screwed over this person. And this person just laid it all out. And it was like, he's a terrible person. And y'all, shouldn't be thrilled about him. So like on a personal level, the dude is trashed.

And then from a professional level, like age Ultron came out and it was not as, it didn't hit the way that the first Avengers hit and then he takes over this movie and just



Craps the bed. Just so like professionally. Yeah. Absent of all of that personal stuff could he, Oh, and he was signed on to do, like a bat girl movie, and then DC was like, nah, bro,

we're going to go all that personal stuff coming out while he was directing this, maybe that had something to

do with it.

No. I think all that came out afterwards after so strange thing this week that said , that while, and this, this is all, however many years after the fact, so who knows. But I think it was like Ray Fisher was, was talking about how Josh Whedon would constantly reference age of Ultron.

Almost in like a way of I can't believe people didn't like that movie and trying to like insert things from age of Ultron into this movie, because to try to get people to like it, I don't know , because those bits didn't work in age of Ultron. So he was like , let me try it in this movie.

And that'll be my little homage to myself. I don't know. Or, that could just be Ray Fisher, being pissed off and, taking every possible. Yeah. Yeah. He has all

of these like unsubstantiated claims , Oh, something bad happened to me, but I'm not going to tell you what it was.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, from what I've seen, it was basically just he was a terrible person to work with and he would, berate actors and make them feel like crap all the time. And. Not a good time to touch. Other people came out and said, Hey, that's his Mo and it's not fun.

Yeah. What was that show? What was that show with a what's her face. Oh God, dang

it.

What was the, it was the dolls or something doll house to all house. Yeah. Oh my gosh. . Yeah. Like the all

girls,

if you think about it, that's really creepy. You know

what

I mean? Yeah. That's creepy. Like you're putting a bunch of girls in the bonds.

, I think came out where like Michelle Trachtenberg, who was like 13 at the time when she was on Buffy, they had a, he can't be alone with her rule. Wow. Yeah. At some point. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not great. Yeah. Great stuff.

I don't even know what to say about that. Like obviously she's too young, obviously way too young, but as a, if you're in that position of power, how do you not take advantage of it?

You have to be a really good person, like that's just, that's what it comes down to, and people get tempted and over time, it's gotta be hard. Like people trust you,

Yeah. That's that's the whole thing , yeah. Aside from just , not being a shitty person , yeah. A lot of people fall prey to the power dynamics. And that happens everywhere. I mean that you see that with the older manager at the restaurant and the 17 year old girl, who's waiting tables.

Like you see that all the time. And

yeah, I worked at a restaurant, a few restaurants, but I didn't realize that was happening really bad at when I was working at , in Florida to like after. And people were talking about what happened. I was like, Oh my God, like it's just nuts,

just, I like the amusement park.

Everybody's generally the same age. You don't have too much of that, like high, low stuff. Everybody was generally the same age, which made it, like another version of high school and college, but at least it was a

safer, yeah. But like these things are like terrible thing we're talking about.

I was like, terrible. These are terrible things that happen in real life.

Not of it's just bad. Yeah. Like it's. Yeah.

But now . I don't want to cut this out, but I, I watch stuff on Twitter and I watched up on Facebook and it's people get so bent out of shape over something.

Not that , nothing that anybody did to something they said. And it's just the weirdest thing. Just

wait though,

but they have way. But I literally watched the

conversation, I guess it also depends on alright, is this a person that, you know, or is this a person that you care about?

Or are we talking about like random people who don't know each other talking to each other online?

All right. Two things. I've seen the random people on Twitter. I've seen that's gross. . And then I've two people. I know, I know one of them and the other person knows the other person.

And somehow they took all I've read. I literally read with my eyes, every single word they said, took every single word out of context and got upset and offended. And then other people decided to jump in and get upset and offended. Then the person re says what they said and clarifies it. And they still choose to get offended.

And it's like, how is this even happening? They're not reading the words that the person is saying, and it's just I don't even know how can this be a thing? Like being offended as the cool new thing now? Like it's let's all just be offended. I don't know. It's weird, man.

I wouldn't say that being offended is the cool new thing. I think it's, more subconscious than that, I think we're all, I think

the past year has been incredibly taxing for everybody. Everybody's a little keyed up. Everybody's generally keyed up around election time anyway. So tack on a global pandemic, and we've all forgotten how to socialize, being like, in the same space as people and stuff.

So so much just happening online , that. It's I think it's a perfect storm for people to just blow up on tiny things,

But it's not even the things that are being said, it's the mind reading behind it. It's I'm, I know that your intention is this. So I'm going to get mad at you and then say that you're this.

And it's what just happened? This person is the kind of person that supports you. And you're like, Oh, it just, it doesn't make

sense. Offending, people barking at each other on the internet. I'm not defending that at all. ,

we can get upset, but we don't have to blurt it back out.

You know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be blurted. Like I can be upset and then I can think about it and go, okay. You know what I mean? Are maybe they were just having a bad day or whatever, or maybe I misread that wrong, , but

now culture courages us.

It encourages us to, to type it back out and put our response out there.

So that'd be upset and be offended. Like , it's weird to me. It's so strange. Am I wrong? Do you not see this happening? No.

I mean that all the time. Absolutely. Yeah.

It's becoming more and more commonplace. Like it's just, like somebody says something, they take it out of context. They infer a meeting that may or may not have been there.

And then they attack that person. And it's just crazy to me. Like it just seeing it more and more, and it's just weird. Just totally weird.

Yeah. I think we all need to take a step back and take a look at what our online presence is and , if somebody that I'm friends with on social media says something that I, disagree with or, think is silly then, I try to, take a moment and be like, and remember why I liked that person genuine.

I have genuine love for this person. And so we stopped giving each other the benefit of the doubt, I think some ways ago. And , I think we need to do a little bit more of that. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just, to me, it's just a sad state of things, it's you can't, it's like they're having the conversation and the text is on the screen, but for whatever reason, both parties are misinformed and the other party, and it's just the weirdest, like how can you not read what it says and read it?

You know what I mean? Read the words that are on the screen, but instead they're just choosing to be offended because like it's , God, I can't even, I don't have, I don't have words for it, but I just feel like there's going to be more and more of this because being a victim is the thing to do now.

Like just don't take ownership for your own wellbeing. Just blame everybody else or whatever. Like it's the weirdest way to operate. Like you can never be happy because other people are always doing things to you. It's you know what I mean? Like happiness is not on the table.

Like getting along with people of different types. It's not on the table. It's not on the table because everybody's



racist, it's just the weirdest, it's the weirdest thing. Like why can't we think about the result that we want and operate from that mode set of this mode of everything is broken and torn apart.

And it's your fault? It's just the, I don't know, man, like I maybe I'm taking it too far.

There's also there's also the complication of

all of not all there, there is real injustice out in the world. So there are people who are actual victims, right? So delineating between who, it's tough and it's all very nuanced. You know what I mean? And that's a thing that not everybody's great at anymore.



, it's just things that are like boring and complicated. You know what I mean? That's not something that like a whole lot of people are at attaching themselves to. It's a lot easier to just go to, scream. This is what will solve the problem as opposed to no, here's , here's the 150 page plan.

That's going to take five years. That's going to solve the problem. You know what I mean?

It's just, to me, it should be about being the example and not always about looking for things that are wrong. You know what I mean? I guess , the different take I have, if I'm always looking for something that's wrong, I'm going to find it everywhere.

If I'm looking for, so

What makes you think that people are always looking for something that's wrong?

That's what I'm talking about. That's how these arguments happen, where one person's literally trying to maybe even help the other person. And they're interpreting it as being attacked.

And it's this is not like I'm looking at it. And I'm like, this is not what that person it's so obvious that person did not mean it in that way at all. And because they have the filter of looking at what's wrong and being a victim or being attacked, that they can't even see that the other person meant well and was really trying to help them.

If you always have that filter on your , you will, things will never get better. They'll never get better because you don't have inside of you, the possibility that people are really trying to help each other or, make things better, that's all I'm saying. .

Yeah.

Yeah. That, that could very well be real.

That's my concern. I just see more and more of it. Like this type of thinking is becoming taught in schools and it makes me sad. It makes me sad for the future, because it's going to take a while for that to go away are at least open up to where, like you said, zoom out and see different angles.

It's going to take

awhile for people now, can I challenge you on this though? How do you know what's being taught in schools?

I've seen some quizzes and things I've been watching videos about it.

Yeah. But even if I saw I think cause context is important. But it's just, it's such a broad thing, such a broad statement that like,

all right, I'll come in with facts next time.

I'll come in with the facts.

No, . Look right. 150 page paper on just for fun for you. And I,

so Falcon a winter soldier comes out this week. You excited?

No, I canceled my Disney plus subscription.

Are you serious? Yes,

I I put the reason you canceled her Disney, plus I put,

wow. Wow. Taking a stand. Wow. Really? , you're not going to watch the next Marvel show. No, I'm going to watch

it.

You're messing with me. Come

on, man. Wow, dude, you had me going.

No, I thought about it. I really did think about it. This whole situation has really got me a little bit upset, because the facts are different than the stories the media is putting out and most people after doing the research on the topic that we're not even discussing agree with me.

You know what I mean? So it's just upsetting,

but yeah. Falcon and winter soldier.

Yeah.

It's all right. I'm sure it'll be fun. Like we're out of stuff to watch. So that's the, yeah. That's , it's something I watch not super hyped about it though.

Really?

Why is that? I , no , I don't know the stakes. I don't know what's going on.

Why it's important? I don't know. I've I think I watched the trailer. I don't remember what happened. I remember lots of things like action running and fighting and exploding things, but I don't know what the story is. It's it's not intriguing. Wanda vision to me was like, just weird.

And what is this thing? This is not something we've seen ever. So this has got to be something, whereas Falcon and winter soldier, I feel like we've seen this movie before.

Gotcha. Yeah. I'd say I'm I , like they're dynamic in, was it civil war? Yeah. Civil war, like where they were fighting Spider-Man and , giving each other a hard time throughout the movie.

I really enjoyed that. I thought the two of them had a fun dynamic. So doing some sort of buddy cup kind of vibe, with them too. I think that's fun. That's worth exploring. And then also exploring like what is the Marvel universe post captain America?



You're right. I'm sure, once I see the first episode, I'll be all in, but at this point with no knowledge of what's happening. I'm just not that intrigued,

so going in, I let go in and blink. I the last couple of years I've been real, I guess it was probably when the force awakens came around, when the force awakens came around is when I got really into , I don't want to see a single trailer.

I want to go in completely blank. So that, because I feel like so many movies where I would watch the trailer and then I'm thinking , there was this one scene that I saw in the trailer and it looked cool. And when is that gonna happen? And then it doesn't happen to the end of the movie or something like that.

It's like those little things, they take me out of it. I start thinking, I start trying to guess where things are going or what's going to happen too much. And, as evidenced by one division, like you can go down some crazy rabbit holes that probably aren't there.

So I would like to just go in blank, be surprised. So yeah, I like all of the new star Wars movies. I tried to completely avoid spoilers or trailers. So that I wouldn't see set pieces or just anything , anything too much that , yeah,

yup. For me, this one is exactly that I don't know what it is.

I'm not super interested. I hope after I've watched the first episode I'm hooked. I really hope I'm fucked, but . And if one division is any Testament, then it's, to what they can create then. Hopefully it'll be great.

Zemo is back. .

Yeah. I saw that

the villain, no, they put him in that like crazy, like rollercoaster chair in the glass box.

They put him in that thing. And then , Martin Freeman was like, You'll be in here forever a thing. And

That scene at the end of the movie where he does the monologue for what, like he's on the side of a cliff or whatever. And I always like, while that scene is going on, I imagine him like jumping off the cliff in my head.

And so I guess that, that memory stuck because that w like that would have been the rational thing for the character to do at that point, I think would be to just, screw it, but ,

that didn't happen. No, he , he listens to the voicemail from his wife one last time. And then pulls the gun out, tries to shoot himself, but then black Panther comes in and stops the bullets.

You're going to have to live with what you did. .

my memory serves me so poorly, so he did try to kill himself and . Something interfered with it. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Black Panther stuff.

I did want to talk to

PI day,

is this as a PI day? Oh God. Math. Math is hard. I did want to mention a couple of other things about cider verse. Cause I thought about it.

. My wife and I went and watched man of steel again, like not too long ago. It was a pretty good movie. . Yeah. You set up a world. That was really interesting. And yeah, it's just a shame that like his vision didn't quite pan out, and

I think you went just a little too dark with Batman versus Superman, because like on its whole man of steel to me don't get me wrong. It has that Snyder color grading kind of vibe, but yeah. Ben versus Superman took it to another level, , but at the same time, like I still enjoy the movie.

And

did you see the edit? Oh

Yeah. Oh honestly, like I saw the theatrical version in the theater and then when I got it on the Blu-ray, so the second time I watched it, I watched the director's cut and I was like, Oh, this is a lot better because really it goes into a little bit more detail about it.

Yeah. Everything actually makes sense. Yeah. You can follow the story. Yeah.

It's a little bit more sense. It's good. It's good. There's like a whole character that just is just completely edited out of the movie. Yeah, the whole story of the bullets and how Lois figures out the Lexus behind things, right?



Yeah. Made more sense. Made more sense. Instead of Lex just showing up with some crazy wacky guy, there was a little bit of context , to the thing. So like I'm secretly in the back of my mind, hoping. That this does so well that they continue with a little more bad flick because I love Ben Affleck as Batman.

I don't know why. Maybe it's just the suit he's wearing. I don't know. But I just want to see more of it. Like I want to see a Batman story, within Aflac, I don't want to see Robert Pattinson. And speaking of which you heard about this news, I came out with Robert Pattinson Riggins recently.

Nah,

there are reports of him doing naughty things with catwoman.

Okay.

On top of the Batmobile or some car or something on this, on a set piece in public, like in front of everybody. Yeah. And like weird, interesting. This guy has like just lost his marbles.

Like he just doesn't give two apps about anything. It seems like.

All right.

If the , if you thought Josh Wieden was hard to work with, like this guy sounds like it's just and you just put it in your pants for a minute so we can shoot this.

Holy crap.

Yeah. Interesting. Cause that's , that's , Kravitz that's Zoe Kravitz is playing.

. So supposedly their thing. Yeah. In real life. , before the public display, there were private displays and , yeah. Interesting. I tried to keep this PG for

your nephew, sorry.

Oh yeah. One of our, one of our solid listeners. Yeah. What's up Liam? What's up Isaac. Shout out. What's up baby. Shout out to the kids, listening to the show. Yep.

All right. Anything else on Snyder verse you got?

Like I just wanted to say that like I really liked the bat Fleck was convincing to me. And I just, I wanted to see more of that character. Like he was a little violent, obviously in the ,

the BVS.

. Wow. Why isn't that out?

Wasn't didn't shoot that movie like five years ago. Oh, wow.

They've had six directors all quit at some point. Like it's been rewritten, it's been all kinds of things. But now I think they have a good script and they have a director locked in and I believe , they're starting to film. Or they may have already started. It's really close.

It's really close. And it sounds like it's actually happening, but Billy Crudup is out. I saw that this week he a scheduling conflict. Couldn't be in the movie Billy Crudup. He played the flashes incarcerated father.

Oh

yeah. He couldn't make it scheduling conflicts.

Like he couldn't just take a day and shoot a movie.

Guess not, I guess he's filming something else. That's paying him more.

So he's not going to be in it or somebody else is going to play the fine.

Okay. I don't know if they'll recast. He looked him in as are Miller look enough alike, to where man, you're not going to strike oil twice.

Yeah. Somebody. Yeah, you could do, man. Did you see that story about the lady like deep faking a bunch of kids on this lady like did a deep fake of some videos, putting kids who were on the cheerleading team too, and then leaked these like R rated videos with these cheerleading kids' faces on them.

And then in an effort to either get her daughter onto the cheerleading team so that the coach would kick them out, elevate on the cheerleading team. Wow. Deep fix is gonna get, it's gonna get bad. Not use this for good all the time.

It's not expensive. Can anybody just drag and drop on the internet and make one?

Or do you have to pay, like, why is it like, there's like

a whole like start there? I think there is a payment thing structured. But like you get when you read an article where if you go and you sign up or whatever, they send you the Nicholas cage starter kit. So you can use it like the starter kit gives you Nicholas cage to work with, and then you can use other people as that's great.

Yeah. Maybe it's just like code on GitHub. You can just download it and anybody can get it maybe. Yeah. It's just like open source. Deep, fake. Yeah. Yeah. What a great idea. Open source.

Yeah. Yeah. Genius

too, though. That's what I'm looking at with this AI tech stuff though, is where it's getting weird too, because you can write.

Yeah. Like that's weird. And then they have the photo thing too. So you could put like a foot Nick cage in this position doing this thing and it'll generate a photo of it. That's the weird, crazy, like AI is getting weird, man. Like , you just need a, just a semi-active imagination and you can make stuff was crazy.

Yeah. What were you saying?

Oh, nothing. I was just gonna bring it back to , Snyder cut and Falcon and winter soldier. That makes sense. So the con here's the conundrum that I have this week.



Here's here's my I'm excited about , so Snyder cook comes out on Thursday, Falcon and winter.

Soldier comes out on Friday, Thursday night, the NCAA basketball tournament starts, and it is the greatest four days, four and a half days of basketball watching because it's basketball games from like noon until midnight. And and it's a lot of fun. It's like holiday tradition for the Owens is to just go nuts on watching basketball.

So I'm going to have to try to fit in a four hour justice league movie with all of this basketball watching, going on. Like why is so many things all happening on the third week of March? Get the

basketballs like a new moon or something or some kind of solar eclipse. That,

Oh, and it's also, Patrick's day is Wednesday, which is not such a whatever holiday for me. But yeah, I feel like this weekend or this week of the year, there's always like a bunch of stuff going on.

It also feels like that's normally the first like nice warm weekend. Yeah. . Spring has sprung. Spring has sprung. I played the snow shovel back in the cellar wise decision. Hoping I don't have to go get it. You have a son. I don't have to go back down there and get it.

Yeah. We got like a little outdoor know. Yeah. That's creepy. Is it scary? Oh , it's super creepy. It's super creepy. And then even creepier, there's a crawl space to get it. So the seller's probably under the kitchen, which is only probably 10 feet long, 20 feet wide, maybe 30 feet.

I don't know. I'm bad with weights and measures, but then yeah. Then it's crawl space for the rest of the house. And so if I ever have to go under there.

It's gotta be like raccoons and who knows what I, it

Oh, absolutely. Possums and just all kinds of stuff. No, thank you. And then I think there's like a, I think some birds have have made their way through the brick here into some of the attic space. So I'm going to have to go in there through the creepy tiny door.

I think you can call somebody for that. I think you should call somebody. There's a good chance. Those are bats, not birds.

Oh, that would not be fun. Yeah, I would not. Yeah. If I saw some bats, I'd be like, you know what? We'll have a symbiotic relationship here. You don't come through the drywall.

I don't go past the creepy door. I will call a guy . Y'all got a month. I'm giving you notice, given you a bat's notice. Yeah. After that I'm calling a guy.

Maybe you can smoke them out or whatever,

who knows. Before I go in there, I'm going to make a whole bunch of noise, that gets them too creepy into them to shoo out of here, and , I can't tell if they're actually in there or if they're just like on the roof, like pecking around. So I'm just going to have to put it on my headlamp and just no way check. Like I do my due diligence.

I would never, even if I own the house, there's no way. , Nope.

Call the guy for that. And I pay

yeah. Pay this mortgage.

Nope. Nope. Call a

guy. Yeah. . You have a squirrel dropped in through our like vent one time. This was probably like a year ago. Maybe. No, it was yeah. Pre pandemic, but this squirrel like dropped in through event and then just shows up , next to the HVAC.

And I'm like, what are you doing at my house? Squirrel? He's like making this high pitch squeal noise. What's happening over here. Is there a bird in my house? No, it was a squirrel. So then I trapped him under a tub and then a, and then called a guy so that he could humanely dispense him into the woods or something.





. Yeah. I was going to just slide a piece of cardboard under there, and then just like that and let them go or whatever. But my wife was like, nah, call it professional. And I was like

Yeah, you were halfway there.

He could have just did the carpet. Yeah. If you're going to go through all the trouble to get her in the tower.

. . If we were on the first floor , it would have been a much easier sell of look, I just got to get him from somewhere to there. Yeah. The door. . Yeah. The stairs were in the equation and that was where we call it a guy.

Yeah. Call a guy. I'm all for calling a guy. Yeah. I'm thinking about, I've been thinking about guys editing our videos. I've been thinking about guys like writing blog. I've been thinking about guys, come in and cleaning my house.

Like how much time am I wasting doing stuff that is not going to make me money?

Call the guy. So speaking of making money, how do you like that transition? That's good. Speaking of making money, james Cameron. Rereleased avatar for the billionth time in theaters in China this week.

So now they took in extra money and have pulled ahead of Avengers end game as the highest box office ever. Did he do it just for that? Did he do it just to get the Chinese audience refreshed on avatar? I don't know. When are these avatar movies happening?

Because he's been working on them forever. What are your thoughts?

It sounds a cash grab or something because he's been working on these films forever.

What if he's running over budget? What if he's running over budget?

For sure.

How can you have a, how can you go 10 years of production? You know what I mean? Have they even started shooting,

you can't have, because I think they've at least pretty like Sam Worthington was like a huge star when this movie came out and his star has faded big time. Zoe Saldana is now the bright shining star of this cast.

.

But the thing that I also know about Chinese movie theaters is that they have a very selective process of deciding what films go into their playlist there. The fact that he got it pushed through, that's something , in of itself. Yeah. Kudos to James , Cameron, he got a little bit of, a little bit of a money back into his , project, so he can do pre-production for another five years, .

Yeah. Or is , is he taking advantage of a situation where there isn't a whole lot of content to go into theaters right now? So he's we can put avatar in,

avatar

is make a little money. It was not a small, busy visual, yeah. Jubilee, wonderful movie. Like it is a lot of fun to look at and should be watched in theaters.

, or it's one of the few movies where I feel like watching it in theaters is preferential to watching it like on a TV in your house. So yeah, why not?

Story is very universal. It's all the, all the typical points.

It's for Ellie.

Yeah. It's it's Fern, gully. It's what's the other one. The it's , John Smith and Pocahontas spoke honest. . Yeah, space Pocahontas. And I, you can't take your eyes off of the screen. You can't.

Yeah. It's a solid movie. I'm not knocking it. I'm not saying it's crap.

I'm not saying that they're putting, Oh gosh.

We live in a world where people put out content, all the time, like there's this content. And there was a time before all this content where there were only so many movies, so films would get released in theaters on a semi-regular basis.

Like I know star Wars had a release gone with the wind had probably several release like this kind of thing was normal for a while. So it's not like it's out of the ordinary. It's just, now there's so many options and so many films that you , you don't have time to go back and, but with this pause on production and pause on, on, on society in general, we got a little space, we got a little space left there's a slot open.

I've got to fill it with something, fill it with something, it's going to work.

Yup. True. That's true. Yeah. And it is a visually stunning movie.

. I remember watching some of the behind the scenes of how they made the character. That's it's creepy.

They play on our emotions, making these characters look like dogs and cats and things like that , that the humans like, and then morphing those features into their faces so that, we have what was the word? We feel for

these familiarity.



It's not an emotional, like an emotional, yeah. Like an emotional attachment and understanding. And like we feel sorry for them. Just by looking at them , like that much thought went into the creation of this, these people. So they can't be the bad guys, even if they were,

yeah.

That's all I got on that.

Yeah. I think my initial reaction was one of c'mon James Cameron , and the more I've thought about it and the more we as we've talked it out, yeah. Sure thing, do your thing, James Cameron go for it. Why not? Why not?

I don't want them to go out of business before avatar two comes out

Could do for you. Yeah, definitely. At this point, I'm just intrigued by what, , what could two, three and four all have in store, do I think they're going to be the greatest movies ever? Do I think it's going to be the best franchise ever? No, not at all, but I'm sure it'll be really fun to look at. James Cameron does a good job at fun to look at. It was fun to look at.

Yeah, it was a better story. I think too. It was not a throwaway story and that's what I don't understand about every other Terminator movie is how do they forget about the story?

I didn't mind this, the Christian bale one. I didn't mind the Chris and bale one. I thought that one was pretty good.

I want to go back and re rewatch that one because I think it probably was good, but at the time it was a totally different format of film, that not format, but like structure of film than the first two Terminator movies, which were like running away from a thing.

Whereas that one was like, I don't know, just I don't remember, honestly, I don't even remember the movie. That's what's sad.

, Yeah. The story structure was completely different from the story structure of the other movies. Completely different. Yeah.

Basically it was a man who went into the future as opposed to somebody who going into the past. Yeah. It's you

forgot what made this thing. Awesome. I dunno. And I can see there's a place for that story. And then it just went weird and just it's like, they forgot what made Terminator good.

. They remembered for a minute when they did that show. What was the show? The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Did you see that?

Oh, yay. I watched one or two episodes and I remember it being good, but it was on, at a time where I didn't where I had a lot going on with work or school or something , so good.

Oh man. Yeah.

If there's a way to go back and watch it, do it because I was just like, that was the thing where every week I was like, what are they going to do next? It's just intense, like they, they continue the same theme of being chased by the terminators. And John Connor being a little older, like being the one to start outwitting them and stuff like that , it was a really great , continuation of that story.

And , it's just, they were like, Oh no, we're going to cancel this. What people are watching it. It's good. We should probably cancel it. It doesn't make any sense.

Cause it, I think because it undermined the next term in their movie or something like,

Yeah. Cause then that third one came out with a fourth one or whatever it was to , Nick, whatever his name was. Claire Danes. .

, yeah. That was the movie that undermined Terminator.

Not , not the Sarah Connor throttled.

. I

remember it was sad, man. It was sad because they, it was amazing. Cause all that stuff, all those effects we saw in T2 the, at the time they were revolutionary, but it had been honed. So it had been so long that now that those effects and stuff were like so affordable and easy to do.

So they were doing them in the show just every week in a TV show. Like you would see that at grandchild, so that was really cool. Yeah.

Yeah, so let's talk about this. This is what I've been going deep on this week.

I have never seen the Twilight films ever. I was aware of them. Obviously I worked at a bookstore, and I'm generally aware of most movies coming out, so I knew what it was. Okay.

Wait, what

books or did you? I worked at Barnes and noble at the summit from Oh two to Oh five.

And then I worked at borders on fourth street in Oh six Oh seven, maybe even Oh eight.

Yeah. . That's cool. I got Barnes and noble is like my favorite bookstore to just go in and kill time for no reason. I always, when I, like, when I had nowhere to go and I didn't want to go home, like I would just go to the bookstore , and just pick up books and start reading.

. Get some coffee, do the . Yeah.

.

. That was my winter job. When I was still seasonal and then when I became full-time at the cane this is how crazy I was. I would take vacation days in the winter time.

So I would take off. Cause there's not a whole lot going on in the music parks. . Like we would just bank all of these vacation days throughout the summer. Cause it's just so hard to take them. And then, so I would just take off every Friday in November and then I would work at borders on Fridays, Saturdays, and then Monday nights.

Oh , yeah, so I was making crazy money. And I basically , I would use that to fund Christmas stuff.

Yeah. For a 20 year old or 22 or whatever. Yeah. How old were you? Yeah, I

was like 25 20 , yeah, it was probably like 23, 24, 25, somewhere around there. That's great.

Yeah I remember the Twilight books coming out. I remember that being like a absolute teen sensation and then making the first movie and putting Robert Pattinson in it and him becoming a big freaking deal. Because up until that point, he was Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter.

Yeah. I never saw the first one. And didn't really think that was something that I needed at the time. It

was like, it was common knowledge at the time for both of us, that these were vampires that could go in the sunlight and sparkle. Yeah. And for us growing up with the types Bram Stoker's and , what was the other girl that had those books, those giant thick books of the interview with

the vampire.

Yeah.

So we had this idea of vampires that's just super dark and gnarly and you can't go in the sun. And the idea that vampires could even go in the sun for five seconds was like, eh, no, right now I'm not even gonna look at that. Yeah. That's how I felt about it. I was like, I'm not even gonna, I can't.

Yeah.

But for whatever reason. Yeah. Yeah. I think working at the bookstore, but because let's be honest, I worked in the music and DVDs part of the bookstore. Like I was the guy, I was always in the music session , handing out CDs or DVDs to people. So that's primarily where I worked, but so the booksellers were not fans of these books.

The booksellers were basically like, as opposed to Harry Potter. Every bookseller at Barnes and noble and borders for the most part was like, these are great. And there are a lot of fun with the Twilight books. It was like they were looked down on. So I think that also influenced me to the point where I was like, yeah, I don't need this in my life.

And honestly, like I just assumed that it would just be on HBO one day and I would watch it, or it would be on TBS and I would watch it then, but yeah, like they really do they play around with all of the normal vampire lore that we all know and they throw half of it away, no, no dagger, no stakes through the heart. That's not a thing they're like, Nope, best way to kill a vampire is to rip its head off and then burn it. That seems a little violent, a nice, Buffy the vampire Slayer taught us anything, a nice, table, leg, or chair, leg through the heart, and then you're golden.

And they have like weird like porcelain kind of skin. Yeah. And it's diamond D so then they shimmer in the sunlight , which, makes sense for the movie taking place in like Portland, Oregon, or, in the upper. Upper Northwest , cause it's cloudy all the time. But then so for this first movie, it's like almost all of this, like these like blue tones, because they really like really hammer in the idea of no, it's always hazy.

And then if it's, if there is a sunny day, then all of these vampires stay home from school that day. Which is like big red flag. I think it's justified of Oh, the parents want to take them out, like hiking and do outdoorsy stuff when it's nice out. So they let them skip school on those days.

Yeah. That's another problem. Like the premise of the show is like you got a hundred year old vampire, but no I'm going to go to high school in high school. Like I remember high school and I'm pretty sure I don't want to go back. That's not a thing

that is occurring in my mind. It's like what? He's like a hundred something years old and he's basically.

Doing junior year, senior year, freshmen, sophomore year of college, and then moving to another town and doing those four years again. And they just all do that over and over again for years and

years. . Cause he's tactically. Yeah. He's technically, . He's technically a keyword.

Yeah. Yeah. He's technically one of those.

Oh yeah. Oh, he's creepy. He's a creepy old man. She's 17, man. Can't be doing that. Come on. Yeah,

but if you're okay, but if you're a hundred, you're a hundred and you look like that with your porcelain skin, you can get away with that.



Dude. If you're a hundred, then you just find another vampire is also roughly the same deal as do you, should, you should have learned your last reign on some 17 year olds.

Yeah. Can you learned your lesson? Do you probably dated somebody? They got old and it was sad. So at that point, you're going to, you're going to date another vampire.

You're not gonna, you're not gonna go through that grief again. Yeah. Why would you do that to yourself over and over? Yeah. What's wrong with this guy? All of it is sick. Like all of it is socially and mentally sick that I can't even.

Look the more you get into it, like there is some , there's definitely like some abusive relationship undertones here.

Like this dude's way too involved in her life way too. Like protective. Like it's a little, it's a little, much, a little much.

Yeah. Psycho is a fair word to use here, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's some reason he's the hero.

Why is he the hero? Because,

Honestly I think she's the hero.

I think he's like she's definitely the protagonist, like it's definitely of, as far as the movies go they're about her.

He's not a bad guy

somehow. No, he's not a bad guy. He is not the antagonist that's for sure. And they spend, I would say easily 20% of the movies just staring at each other.

These movies are all about two hours and 15 minutes long to 18, somewhere around there. They would be a tight 90, just like a tight 90 minutes. If they cut out all of the staring. It's

a staring shot in slow motion, like . Yeah. Panning around.

Yeah. Yeah. Like awkward. Like I'm about to start a sentence, but then I have to think about it.

And then she reacts to him almost starting a sentence, so then she's start and then she moves, but then she's staring and then she plays with her hair for a second and he takes a second to take that in,

ah, few this to

be young again, that's the movie. And if you cut that out, man, like I had this moment during the first movie where I turned to my wife and I was like, this is a lot easier if you just think that if, instead of him being a vampire, you say he had, he's like neurodiverse in some way, like he's got Asperger's or he's on the autism spectrum, because they're just like awkwardly talking to each other.

And there's all these other high school kids around who are like doing their thing and like having fun and having , having social, like having all these sort of like them to just don't quite get all the facial cues and the social cues. So it's it's, they're highly functioning, maybe they're just they're just on the spectrum and that's great.

But , so if you overlay that on the first movie, it's it's two, it's like him being like, Hey, you're a little weird socially. I'm a little weird socially. Let's be okay together, socially awkward. But if you give it that conceit it's a much more fun movie.

You can say that. And it makes sense. But in the context of being a vampire and being a hundred years old, you should have at some point accrued more and more wisdom and become more and more. Yeah. That

would make you more awkward. Would that make you more awkward? Plus like at any point in time, the cloud, like weather change, it is weather changes all the time.

I'm just going to be real here. You

could start off the day cloudy and then the sun could come out and then everybody knows you're a sparkly diamond vampire. And how do you not walk around with that worry all the time. In the second or third movie, they go to Florida together. They get on a plane and go to Jacksonville.

So you had to get a night flight. You have to have two, this does not get explained by the way, you have to get a night flight. All right. Because how are you going to get from the plane to the car without the entire world being like, what is that? And then how do you get from the car to her mom's place where they're staying without somebody being like, Hey, why do you sparkle?

None of that gets explained. It's just him sitting in doors while Bella and her mom are hanging out outside. And it's just like, how did you even let this? How did you think this was going to go? Yeah. Oh , so do you guys want to run out to the hot dog stand real quick?

No. I'm just gonna stay inside and play with my phone. That's a terrible vacation, bro. It's a terrible vacation. You're a bad vacation guest. You're a bad house guest. Cause he's nuts. Just don't want to do anything. He also whispers throughout the whole, like he's talked at a higher decimal than I'm talking right now.

He's talked at this decimal three minutes at a four movies and it was the part where she was almost dying. That's it? Everything else is

wow. How

was it's been a ride, man, watching those movies.

It makes you wonder on Showtime, but it makes you wonder why was this such a big thing? Is it, , why did people

wish

fulfillment? But yeah, like , why was it so accepted? Like just , Hey. Yeah. Forget about all these logical things that make no sense.

I just want to be taken by a vampire, like it's setting up some kind of, it's setting up some kind of demented relationship, a structure for young girls. Like they're gonna go

into a relationship. Can plant some seeds that don't need to be don't need to be planted. No, that's for sure. I haven't read the book so I can't speak to it exactly.

But from what I've seen of the movies , I would not let a 13 year old read this. No. I would be like, no, not until you're like 30 and you have a strong sense of who you are as a person,

but you is that the problem is yeah, you don't have that discernment to realize, Oh, this guy is a creep.

You know what I mean? To us, it's it's obvious , okay, this is just weird, but did she at any, didn't Bella at some point go, Hey, this is weird. A hundred year old dude is into me. Did that, was that, was there a paragraph about that? Yeah, because I think,

I don't know if there is, but the movies go it's it's it feels like such a , such a like elemental, like attraction between the two of them that, that , all logic be damned.

Hence the stereo.

Yeah. Okay. Oh gosh. The staring all of the sudden,

I don't want to say can't happen, but like bruh, I don't know. I don't really, I don't even have words.

So here's the other glaring fallacy of these movies. So vampires werewolves come into play a lot of werewolves.

Yeah, of course. There's, it's , there's a lot of supernatural stuff. The thing that I had to comment about it took me out of it. The thing that like really just was just seemed really disingenuous to me is when they're in school, all of the other kids are super jazzed about learning.

They are just like, like all the kids are like, they go on a field trip to this like farm and everybody's like super happy and running around and they're just like, we're learning. And they're like getting their hands dirty and working like all this stuff or whatever. Whoever, whoever wrote that has not hung out with teenagers on a field trip.



The irony of that is I feel like learning is really important and cool now that I'm old, but he definitely in high school, not a priority at all.

No. Fourth or fifth on the priority list.

Exactly. That's a, can I pass the test?

She's the new girl in town and the whole school is Hey, welcome new girl.

Would you like to be friends with us? What never had, excuse me. No, that's useless. Yeah. Nelson gets greeted. You

sit in the corner.

Yeah. You get one friend and it's the outcast and they will the friend you, and that will create a bond. And then maybe you can work your way up. Like you got the AA team and a Kendrick and the gang shown up being like, Hey, what's up?

We don't get new people much. So do you want to be our friends? Not a chance. Snags the hot vampire guy. Who's mysterious. Of course. Absolutely. Do you think there would be some happiness going

on? Do you think this series was sponsored by the board of education? Like school is cool. You know what I mean?

Like

Madam, maybe, but the other thing is all of their staring and, awkward conversations are happening during class. You got a class full of, you got 25 students and two of them aren't paying attention and we're focusing on the two that aren't paying attention.

Although there is a biology scene where it shows that they at least are paying attention enough to know, what they're looking at when they look through the microscope at various yeah. Biological things. So they're not bad students.

It's hard. It's very hard for me to get emotionally invested in this at all.

Like I tried, I think I watched the first movie with my wife and I was like, I can't like I don't get it. Yeah. It's just

Somewhere about two thirds of the way through movie too, I was like I'm invested in the story. Just because I've powered through , I would like to know what happens with all of these characters now.

Especially like what's going to happen with all these characters. That's going to necessitate three more movies. And you can definitely tell that, like these were written as books, these were written as books would a silly sentence to say , that you could tell them these were not just written films.

This comes from a book. So like the source material is a book. So it has that That kind of, there's a larger story at play. That's going to take place over multiple books, but we're only focusing on this tiny other story for the purposes of this movie.

Yeah. It's like you, I think maybe the books can explain what they're thinking during all of those weird staring moments, whereas, so you get the context, so maybe there is more context in the book, to be fair.

Yeah, but still man, just can't I can't, I don't know. Yeah. Like just thinking about it hurts my head so much, like the logic of it and the fact that this was the biggest thing ever was like,

it was such a big deal. And now it , nobody really talks about these movies

anymore. Is it like one of those things where we were like, like a spell was cast over people and it's they thought it was amazing because it's just such an interesting concept.

Oh, a vampire in high school, that glows did, is that what happened? And then later, like people grew up and go, yeah, that story is ma is that what I

don't know? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it was just like one of those things where it, it hit and it hit all everybody who was, at the right age and the right time.

Yeah. I had a step something, step cousin step, a family member. I have a family member who at the time she was younger, she's younger than me. And so when all of this was coming out, she was really into it. And in retrospect, it's Oh my gosh, she was 12 or whatever, like that's

man, I hope you don't think this is how relationships

work. She's God bless her heart. But I know that she's not in a great relationship or she hadn't been in great relationships since then, and , yeah, it would be a shame if , any of that had to do with this. But yeah, those are hard. I think things are probably getting better for her, but yeah.

Good. She's this is what you have to start with. It's not a, it's not a solid foundation for how things actually happen or work, like having conversations through staring is not the way to evolve your relationship. Like I have conversations and I have to have conversations and then I have to have conversations about those conversations to figure out what was actually meant or said because , that's how hard communication can be, and then to just the hard stuff, it's just, it's hard stuff in for it from a glance or a stare.

Nah, nah, man.

Yeah. Got, Oh. And then she's, she's getting married at 18, which, Hey, to each their own, everybody's got a different journey, but like her dad in this movie, you feel are in all these movies you feel for this guy. And I don't know what happens. I don't know what happens in the last movie, but I hope there's a real , Hey Charlie, we put you through the ringer man, but it's going to be okay.

I really hope there's a, , Hey, remember that time we Oh, dang it. I said whatever. I just said sounded like, Hey Siri and Siri just came up. So you just came up because I said it again, series just popping in and being like, what'd you need, I got you. How can I

be of service?

I need to enunciate when I say, sorry.

Yeah. What is the say? Hey Charlie. Sorry. No, that didn't pull up.

Since we have Siri here asked Siri what she thinks of Twilight films,

our books. Hey Siri are the, Hey Siri are the Twilight movies. Good.

Oh, it's just showing me that Twilight movies. Oh. But it's giving me their rotten tomatoes scores. 49%, 48%, 49%, 25%. 28. Wow.

That's

terrible. John part one and new moon are not the favorites in the film series one.

I don't even have words. It must be terrible.

They're fine. They're fine. Like here's the thing, I don't think I've ever seen a bad movie. I like watching movies, are they like great stories with great writing and like the cinematography and the first movie is very good.

Like the director of the first movie, it made some like really strong choices and I dug those choices. But the subsequent directors shied away from that and that's too bad. But



So yeah , yeah, it has been a worthwhile adventure to watch, Four out of these five movies so far.

But I certainly won't ever sit down and be like, Oh, you know what? I want to watch tonight. Let's watch the third Twilight movie. That's never gonna happen. Whereas I could put the matrix on right now.

Yeah. We could do the matrix we could do. We could do interview with a vampire, like I could do that again.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a little dark. Now, if you had your choice to where you could be a sparkly vampire who lives forever. If you drink human blood, you get a red reddish kind of glow to your eyes. But if you drink just like animal blood, then you get more of a yellowy kind of a golden Amber vibe. What if you

drink?

What if you drink vegetable blood?

I don't, that's not a thing. Green

juice get that. Could you get green eyes?

I had doubtful.

It's not a vegan diet cease to exist.

Yeah, no. Yeah. You also don't sleep. You don't sleep so you don't study, you don't sleep.

Maybe that's why maybe that's why it has so many problems, social problems, like not sleeping can make you crazy.

So he's just never sleeping, so he's not resetting, he's not integrating all that data, so yeah. Maybe that's what it is. He just needs to take a nap, vampire nap. I thought they slept during the day.

No, the one that's other vampire that's Oh, these

are like 24, seven sparkly vampires.

Yeah, they are. They're constantly, always awake. So would you rather be a sparkly vampire who doesn't sleep can go outside during the daytime, but generally you want to stay away from the sun or would you rather be at nighttime? Oh, and I don't think these guys can fly and I don't think they can change it in the bats.

Rather, but they can run really fast and making they're also incredibly strong, so we're run really fast, incredibly strong. So would you rather do that or would you rather be a, I can fly turn myself into a bat, but I got to sleep during the day. And if I go into the sunlight, I'm going to burn up.

Which one would you rather be?

I've been sunburned so bad that my head basically turned into a tomato before. So yeah, I'm probably going to have to go with sparkly vampire just based on like my laziness and, practicality sense. But ,

yeah, I think I would be sparkly vampire as well. I just, something about being burned by the sun, just

not a great, right.

So what did you watch this week?

Oh, what did I watch?

I already know. I just have to ask.

Yeah, no, I need the prompting. , yeah. A little a Superman and Lois action and get the,

This is on the CW, correct?

Yeah,

we got a hold of her thing going on here. , I'm looking

them up. Tyler hotline. Yeah.

In Corona, California.

Wow. He played infield for Arizona state for their college world series team.

I'm not even going to mention it. What we got this Superman and this lowest.

Yep.

I don't want to speak. Wow. I don't want to spoil too much for you, but they're obviously older. They're obviously older. Okay. And this Lois she's been around the block a few times. So she's got skeleton with a a chip on her shoulder, which we haven't, I don't think we've ever seen that side of Lois before.

Like where she's she's not even super likable at the beginning. Like it, it takes a little bit for her personality to grow on you. Okay. Yeah. But it did , that was very long.

Oh God. Why can't I think of her name Margo?

No, that Amy

Adams, , no, the Christopher Reeve movies.

Oh God, I don't know. Okay. I don't remember the Christopher w was she pretty hard ass in the CRISPR.

Oh, yeah, she was hardcore man. Like she was like, go get her like reporter going to get the story. And it was also like, just a, Hey, go get me a coffee, like that kind of a deal.

Yeah.

So you're getting a little bit of a return, a returned to form of the lowest from that then as opposed to

a soft fitter that's her name? Yeah,

because I feel like the lowest as we've had recently have been softer or softened, the Teri Hatcher, the Amy Adams, all those seat, she had a little more of the reporter vibe going

on.

Director's cut. And the director's cut. She's pretty hardcore, she's getting down to the bottom of things and man of steel, she's kinda yeah. Middle.

Yeah. It's actually very, just not offensive not to anything one way or the other. Whereas this one seems like she's very like very headstrong reporter type and a mom.

And that is the spin that this show goes on. They got two kids. That's

interesting. Yeah. Two, two kids. They super,

are they super, are they that's the question we don't know yet.

We don't know what an interesting way to tackle this show.

Yeah. So it's a whole different take. So other thing.

That's fun. The world doesn't know he's Clark Kent, right? No. And

his kids don't even know

what,

yeah. I feel like his face is, has more like his face is very distinct. Like it should be obvious, I feel like previous Superman's were just a run of the mill white guy that you would confuse with another run in the middle of white guy.

But like he has a, this guy has a very distinct space and distinct

features. So Henry Cavill was, is I feel like he's super distinct. Anybody who doesn't think that guy is also Superman is especially working in a newsroom where everybody's a reporter come on, man. Walks in

and he's just, they're all

terrible

reporters.

Yeah. He's this giant beast

of a man. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now Christopher Reeve did a great Clark Kent , and Brandon Ralph Brandon, Ralph probably did a better Clark camp. They needed a Superman his

did you hear about us come back in the, they did the Brandon Ralph Superman and the and the

CW crossover event.

Yeah. Yeah. That's cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't see it. Cause , at the time my cable provider was feuding with the CW. So there was like , there was like a two month period of time where we didn't get CW. And honestly, like I wasn't ever invested in the CW shows except for Supergirl. When it first came out, we watched that , the first season on CBS we watched and then we watched the second season on the CW.

And then I think we gave up after the second season, we

had the opposite experience. We got invested in arrow and the arrow verse. And then about the time flash came out, maybe the season before that it was like, may like we weren't excited about it. And then, yeah, flash, we watched the first couple of episodes.

It was really good. And I don't know why we didn't finish watching it. I think it was because they were starting to like branch off into, I don't even know why we just stopped watching. Like we didn't even finish the first season, but like I know that show is pretty good, I don't know why we didn't get back to it.

But yeah, we just stopped. Yeah. It just became too much because there's so many, yeah, there was just so many shows spinning out. I was like, I can't, I'm not going to watch every single episode of every

one watch this plus that plus legends of tomorrow plus black lightning plus Supergirl. And then, yeah, there's just a lot going on.

Yeah. Yeah.

Which is cool that we have that much content. In that universe. That's awesome. And this is technically still in the same universe, from what I know, I understand. Like he played Superman and Supergirl. Yeah. Yeah. So we're getting some continuity, which is great. But yeah. I dunno, man. I dunno, that's it.

I didn't want to go any further, farther than that. Like this show has gotten

maybe one episode. There's only one episode right now.

Yeah. There's one episode and it's got the most views of any show and awhile. I don't remember what the statistics are, but it's a lot a Superman and Lois statistics, Lois Lois.

It's something really ridiculous. As of yet March 5th, it was three point 25, 3.25 million viewers. And it's only, it's been out for another week and a half since then. So it's going to be close to 4 million probably. So I don't know, what's taking them so long with putting the next episode out, but I have a feeling they didn't expect it to be blow up like this.

It's they forgot. It's like that. They forgot Superman was their biggest character, and they forgot, like it's if they made a Batman or Superman show is going to blow up, it's I don't know why, like one plus one never equal to for them. I don't know if they just wanted their other characters to do better or what, but like it's really blown up.

And ,

it also, might've been a thing where the DC Warner brothers, people were like, look, y'all can do whatever you want. Just don't touch Batman or Superman , on the TV shows because we're reserving them for the movies, same thing with wonder woman. But then as people, as, audiences get more familiar with the idea of separate concurrently, running universes, yeah. Bringing him in isn't that big of a deal. And if they're going to explore multiverses and flashpoint anyway, then, having a couple of different Superman around, can't be that big of a deal. And you've already tested it with the CW shows, having, crisis on infinite or it's, bringing Brandon Ralph back in.



I didn't see that event. I'm thinking about going back and watching it. It didn't he play the Adam in arrow. Wasn't Brandon Ralph already yet.

TC character. Yeah, he was already on he's. He's been on legends of tomorrow since that shows arted. Yeah. So yeah, he's been in there.

So he was only Superman for that one episode or those two episodes. And I don't think they had him interact and he played an older version of himself too. He was like an older look, a little bit of gray on the side. Yeah. I really need to see that.

So I pulled up Tyler hock Caughlin Hey, Hicklin whatever this guy's name is, he turns down the role of Emmett Colin in the Twilight films. Oh, that I don't, I couldn't tell you who Emmett is.

I don't know. Yeah. Is this the guy? This is the new Superman Tyler. Yep. Yeah, no, he does a great job.

I'm, I was really impressed, with both of these, like all of the acting, like all of the storytelling. I didn't have much, the only thing that was a little crammed in is like for convenience sake, like Louis's dad is a general in the military, so like he can just talk to Superman, it's like a convenient.

A relationship that I had

I do remember that being a S that was already established in super girl,

like that's a normal, it was a general, was that also established in , this Snyder versus okay. Yeah, but it just, yeah, it just feels like an awfully convenient relationship to have, but it's nice.

So you can, they can go between the two facets. They can go between Superman being Superman and Superman being dad relatively quickly using that device of her father, so that, that's cool. I serve, it serves a purpose and , yeah, but that was the only thing was, it was a little bit jarring, but it makes total sense if you're going to have to tell the story , and go back and forth between those things to have a device that you can switch easily.

Yeah.

Yeah. And having a handful of people that he could talk to as Superman other than just Lois.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that's cool. Yeah man, I just, I really enjoyed it like me and my wife, we keep checking to see when the next episode is coming out and they kept pushing the date back.

Like it was supposed to come out on the 13th and then they pushed it back to the 18th or something. It's really strange, but I really don't think they expected it to be this good or do this well. It really , it's really blown up and I think maybe Warner brothers is like, Whoa, what's going on here?

We knew we'd do good, it's doing great. It's been really great. People are really latching onto this. And it even has some of the Krypton story. Like they, they got it all in there. They got the Krypton story in there. They got all kinds of stuff and yeah, they, it's it's almost a movie.

I think the first episode was like an hour and a half or something like it's really a lot. And , so it's telling, and it's getting it all in there and telling a whole new story at the same time. Yeah man, you gotta watch it. You gotta watch it. And two is Oh yeah, I'll check it out. It's kinda drama.

Ye a little bit to the high school drama, the kids and stuff, so it's got that CW vibe a little bit.

But it's definitely coming in, in high school. Yeah. So the kids are older. Oh, wow. Yeah. I thought they were going to be like little kids. No,

it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing.

I'll check it out. It's it's perfect drama. It's really perfect drama. It's like, how can we make Superman? Interesting. I'll give them to kids, but I'm in high school, like that's a different, that's a different take, not one I would've thought would even exist. It's definitely.

Definitely fun. And there is a villain as well. And , I can't wait. I really am. I'm like , how do I wait? Can I watch the next episode? I'll keep refreshing my S my CW thing, man.

Come on. Nice.

Yeah.

If you're, if you got a minute and you want to read up on the Taylor Swift situation , go to the, is this entertainment.com and you can read, Jacob's take on what's going on with Taylor Swift rerecording her first five albums.

Yeah. It's a quick blurb. It's not too much. It's not too heavy.

I don't think, I hope it's factual. It's not, yeah, you don't have to read it, but it's informative.

It's informative. Give it a click. Why not? Why not? Yeah. Also while you're on the computer, Hey, give us a share the podcast with a friend. Maybe even throw out a comment like Sharon comment, please.

Why not? Do all the things podcasts.

Yeah. At this point, I'm just doing it. It's this podcast. It's just for me and you right now at this point. And it's

just, this is me in Utah. No, our week our it's our weekly check-in maybe somebody is watching something. Maybe somebody is listening to something who

knows if somebody yeah.

If somebody is listening, we appreciate you. Thank you for listening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It means a lot to us. Do you want to do,

we'll be here. We'll be here next week. Anyway. Yeah. We'll be here anyway.

Yeah. It's something happened on Twitter. Something happened on, Oh, we made a thing of the animation.

That was fun. Oh yeah. That was fun. Yeah. Follow us on Twitter. You can see the little animated thing,

the rocks snippet, a snippet of our last show and Jacob put a cool animation to it.

Yeah, that was fun. I didn't even know. I could do that.

Yeah. It's wild.







Yeah, this is a lot of fun. We have,

all kinds of stuff. Yeah. , we had a lot to talk about. If you have a question too, you have to hit us up on , on the Twitters. Is this ENT pod , at, is this pod? I can't even say that. ENT pod.

Yeah. Hit us up over there. Ask us a question, ask us. I didn't make up. I went the whole episode without me

without making up a new word. Good job. Got a

new one. Good job.

Ask us, just go ahead and ask us, ask the question. Do you want to be on the show? Shoot us a message. Yeah. Do you have an idea?

Do you want to talk about something entertaining question Mark. Let us know. There's the topic of, is there a movie or an album or a TV special that you would like us to cover? Hit us up.

Yeah. And thank you Ben until next time. 📍 and so next time

thank you Jacob. Bye

bye.

Nice.

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There's a place for that story. And then it just went weird and just it's like, they forgot what made Terminator good.

They remembered for a minute when they did that show. The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

, that was the thing where every week I was like, what are they going to do next? It's just intense, they continue the same theme of being chased by the terminators. And John Connor being the one to start outwitting them and stuff like that , it was a really great , continuation of that story.

And , it's just, they were like, Oh no, we're going to cancel this. What people are watching it. It's good. We should probably cancel it. It doesn't make any sense. 📍 We were recording?

In just a moment moment.

We're recording. This is it. Hey, this is the ITE Podcast. And We're

back and we're back. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome this entertainment podcast

. We have a lot of fun in store for you today. We're going to talk about all kinds of thought provoking subjects, such as sorry.

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know about, I don't know about thought provoking. Maybe. Hopefully we get there. How you doing, man?

I'm struggling. I'm struggling a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. , I did my exercises this morning. Didn't help.

Nice.

Oh no. Yeah. I had my coffee. Do some like yoga stretching, then I do pushups and if I haven't murdered myself, then I do some crunches. And that's really it. It's pretty simple, basic, , cool.

Because I started moving. I only started doing pushups, maybe two and a half months ago. And at the beginning I could barely do 10. So now I've gotten to the point where I can do 20 to 30 at a time. Typically half of them are the knee pushups. And then, and then I take a break and then I do more like another set of 20 or 30.

Then it goes down usually 20. And I just do that over and over until I can't do it. Yeah. That's it. And , I feel a little stronger, like overall, like I feel better, like my posture normally is better and , yeah, that kind of thing. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about, .

Yeah. So you're doing a bunch of pushups and then going until you can't go then taking a break, then doing more and then.

I feel stronger overall, but this is like fitness advice coming from somebody who has never been fit and probably still isn't. Who knows,

Yeah. I fell off the wagon. I got the food poisoning , what that was like two weeks ago.

And , yeah, it kinda knocked me out for two days. And I was like, Oh, I just don't want to work out the next day. And then just like being sedentary for a little bit. And it has snowballed

a little, I skipped two days. And so maybe that's why today was so rough. Like I couldn't even get to my normal number.

Like I had been like hitting about 70 pushups , typically, and I've gotten all the way up to 90 and now I'm down to like today. I only did two sets. I just did 40 I'm just like meh, you know, just below average today.

Hey man. It's all right. Look. It's a little gloomy outside, just a easy breezy Sunday.

We don't have to take it too hard.

Yeah, no, you know, I'll ramp it up all week and I'll, hopefully I'll hit some, hit a hundred. That's been my goal forever. Hopefully I'll hit 109, then I'll have a new goal of doing a hundred actual pushups and not half knee and half regular.

. So we'll get there eventually. Yeah,

that's cool. Yeah. I've been on a , trying to eat healthier kick. Not that I've not that I've been like, not eating healthy healthily. But we've decided since it's a little warmer to re-introduce salads, into the diet. So I've been trying to do at least two, maybe three nights a week where it's a salad and a protein kind of a deal.

So that's been nice, but then I made fried chicken last night and wrecked everything.

. That'll do it. Like we did the same thing. We've been eating good every Saturday we've been doing steak and potatoes. Like we cook ourselves. So it's it it was just really great. And , with a little bit of salad, so steak, salad potato all the major food groups.

Perfect. And then then yesterday we messed it all up. We did , Chinese and we both feel a little over MSGed,a little cooked.

Yup, yep. Little yeah, I get it. I totally get it. Hey, so fun thing that you did this week. Oh yeah. It's up

on our website. , I wrote the , just a little blurb about , the , the Taylor Swift doing... redoing her first five albums.

I think eventually she's going to do her six when she can. But yeah, just a little blurb on here, like why she doesn't own her rights to our own recordings, stuff like that. Basically any label deal you're signing away, all your rights to re to your recording and then they give you 20% of the income or less back, and then you have to pay off the advance with that 20%.

So it's a , pretty rough situation. Anytime somebody signs a record label deal. That's just my warning

if like when, so like when you and I put something out as dual paradigm and it's on Spotify right now, or one song. Yeah, it is on Spotify. Yes, it is. Now, with our agreement through Spotify, they have no ownership.

They're just distributors. Yeah. Spotify has. They're just distributing. Okay. Yeah.

But the way that they pay you royalties is that's the messed up part. So like they have a pool of money that's given to them by the users theoretically, they should divide that pool up evenly based on the number of listens that you get, but they don't, they put it into buckets.

So there's a bucket for major label artists, these artists on this label, a bucket for this. And then the scraps get distributed to us folk. Yeah. Which is why there's that whole thing we

got. If we got 10 million listens to one song and Taylor Swift got 10 million listens to one song, she would get a much bigger pay day than we did.

Gotcha. Gotcha.

Yeah. Which is really sad. I didn't even realize that was the way it worked until recently. I thought everybody got like an even, but now they put it in buckets, which is really unfair. Yeah. , there's a lot of new stuff going on with audio. I don't know if you're following any of this, like NFT , cryptocurrency

stuff, but that's a scratching the surface on understanding what that is.

Yeah.

It's like for

whatever to me,

logically it makes no sense, but for whatever reason is taking off. So you and I, we re we can record a song and then we can say, okay, even though the song could be copied and duplicated, we can say, Oh no, there's only just this one version of it. We can make a limited number of versions of it that are the official versions, like a certificate, if you will.

So like you're getting that poster signed basically. And so it's like a piece of artwork hanging on a wall is what they're trying to equate it to. The only thing is it's still digital, but for whatever reason, if you say there's only 10 of them, then there's only 10 of them. And then the price of that thing can be more and more people bid on it essentially, so that's, what's going on. So I think it's something we should look into more.

Yeah, what's confusing to me is , the idea that how I came to know about this was through like sports highlights from the NBA and basically somebody turning almost it being like the modern baseball card, really.

Yeah. Of here's this highlight dunk and it's 10, second clip. And maybe it has this added like little effect, but I'm like, can't anybody just find the video of that dunk. Yeah.

Yeah. But if you don't have the token or the certificate, then it's not the official dunk video. Right. You see what I'm saying?

Gotcha. That's yeah. It really makes no sense seal of approval,

but it's just, people are buying into the seal of approval. Yeah. It's really, that's all it is. It's like you say, there's only 10 of these seals and are a hundred of these seals or a thousand of these seals and supposedly there's more value to it because there's uh...what's the word I'm looking for?

No, there's a scarcity. Scarcity. Yeah. That's it like fake scarcity. Yeah. But it's real because there's only so many, there's only so many

tokens the thing, and we're creating that's

wild. Yeah. What's really cool about this for artists is that we can make a song once, put it out, say there's only a hundred tokens of it.

Somebody can buy it, say they buy for 10 cents or whatever. But then later they decide to sell their official song to somebody else. And then they sell it for 20 cents. As the artists,

we can...almost like the wu-tang

album, but here's the cool thing for artists we can put in a royalty so that every time it gets sold, we get 10% back.

So as it approaches a higher number, and that's how these artists are becoming just all of a sudden wealthy, because some of these guys are selling for 10,000, 20,000, $40,000, and they're getting a 10% kickback each time it gets sold. So the artist is really benefiting , in a major way. The trick to getting people to buy it.

I don't understand what that is. Like, why are some NFTs? They said at 10 cents where some NFTs go to, 50,000 y'all are. That, that trick, it's probably worth experimenting with a little bit,

yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So is there like a website?

There's a few, there's a few of these things going on. But yeah , it's a thing I think we should both do some research on it and maybe we'll have a, a song. Maybe we just release it as an NFT, we'll see,

let's get on the cutting edge. Why

not? It's worth try. And the thing that's weird is people are doing this with images and digital art and stuff, and it's somebody can just draw a smiley face or whatever and get, $10,000. It's just the weirdest, right?

I guess if there's a market for it. I don't understand it, it's there.

Absolutely.

Yeah. It does feel like a pyramid scheme, like the people that got on at first are gonna make more money than the people that get on it later, in a sense because the, the artists with the track record have already, they made a name for themselves or whatever.

So they're the top artists, we'll see, it'll be fun.

Yeah, and I have to start paying more attention

And, , we, you can do, like an NFT version of the song, like we could release another version of the song that we have, which is we could do like an acoustic version of the song or a, add an extra verse or whatever. And that could be the NFT token version, so there's all kinds of ways to do it. Yeah. Where are we at?

Yeah, let's it's this is a big week coming up. We've got two, two big premieres going on one on the Disney plus one in the HBO max world. So big streaming week Snyder cut, coming out and then Falcon, and winter soldier coming out like the next day, coming up against each other on this.



I keep seeing trailers for the Snyder cut, but I don't actually watch the trailers. I'm the worst at this. Really

cause I'm like, I want to, even though I've seen the first version of the movie, it's so wild that I'm like, Oh, here we go. Another version of the same movie.

I don't understand why I'm excited about it. I don't understand , has this ever happened before? I know people like the director's kind of blade runner more than the theatrical release to the point where you can't even get the theatrical release anymore. It's it

shouldn't be a thing, but it is I think it's just, people's excitement for this movie is the excitement we had when it first came out.

Because the stuff in the trailers from the first time the movie was supposed to be released is the stuff that we're going to actually see instead of, what we got, we got the big letdown.

man. Has anybody fallen off in the last, what? Nine years? More than just Sweden. Think about 2012, that dude was on top of the world when the Avengers came out, like that guy could literally write his own checks.

Could do whatever he wanted. He got me tooed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know all the details, but

yeah. Yeah. Basically okay. So it's a couple of things. One His onset presence is generally toxic. Like he has a tendency to basically just like talk shit about people all the time and does that to pit people against each other.

And, maybe it's to try to get, to get a solid performance out of people. I don't know. But just people from every show he's ever worked on coming out of the woodwork and saying, yeah, he said some really terrible stuff. And he was not a pleasant person to be around and made me feel bad about myself.

So so there's that right? Then there's also , his ex-wife was basically like, Hey, this guy created all of these like positive female heroes with Buffy. And , what was that other show? Firefly

found that it wasn't w/ Elisha Dushku , Oh

not Buffy that one. Yeah. Either way. And she was like he's gotten this reputation as a, as a good, you know, A good guy who promotes female characters.

Yeah. Pro woman, and she was like, so he's been cheating on me, X, Y, and Z for the last, however many years, he's screwed over this person. And this person just laid it all out. And it was like, he's a terrible person. And y'all, shouldn't be thrilled about him. So like on a personal level, the dude is trashed.

And then from a professional level, like age Ultron came out and it was not as, it didn't hit the way that the first Avengers hit and then he takes over this movie and just



Craps the bed. Just so like professionally. Yeah. Absent of all of that personal stuff could he, Oh, and he was signed on to do, like a bat girl movie, and then DC was like, nah, bro,

we're going to go all that personal stuff coming out while he was directing this, maybe that had something to

do with it.

No. I think all that came out afterwards after so strange thing this week that said , that while, and this, this is all, however many years after the fact, so who knows. But I think it was like Ray Fisher was, was talking about how Josh Whedon would constantly reference age of Ultron.

Almost in like a way of I can't believe people didn't like that movie and trying to like insert things from age of Ultron into this movie, because to try to get people to like it, I don't know , because those bits didn't work in age of Ultron. So he was like , let me try it in this movie.

And that'll be my little homage to myself. I don't know. Or, that could just be Ray Fisher, being pissed off and, taking every possible. Yeah. Yeah. He has all

of these like unsubstantiated claims , Oh, something bad happened to me, but I'm not going to tell you what it was.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, from what I've seen, it was basically just he was a terrible person to work with and he would, berate actors and make them feel like crap all the time. And. Not a good time to touch. Other people came out and said, Hey, that's his Mo and it's not fun.

Yeah. What was that show? What was that show with a what's her face. Oh God, dang

it.

What was the, it was the dolls or something doll house to all house. Yeah. Oh my gosh. . Yeah. Like the all

girls,

if you think about it, that's really creepy. You know

what

I mean? Yeah. That's creepy. Like you're putting a bunch of girls in the bonds.

, I think came out where like Michelle Trachtenberg, who was like 13 at the time when she was on Buffy, they had a, he can't be alone with her rule. Wow. Yeah. At some point. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not great. Yeah. Great stuff.

I don't even know what to say about that. Like obviously she's too young, obviously way too young, but as a, if you're in that position of power, how do you not take advantage of it?

You have to be a really good person, like that's just, that's what it comes down to, and people get tempted and over time, it's gotta be hard. Like people trust you,

Yeah. That's that's the whole thing , yeah. Aside from just , not being a shitty person , yeah. A lot of people fall prey to the power dynamics. And that happens everywhere. I mean that you see that with the older manager at the restaurant and the 17 year old girl, who's waiting tables.

Like you see that all the time. And

yeah, I worked at a restaurant, a few restaurants, but I didn't realize that was happening really bad at when I was working at , in Florida to like after. And people were talking about what happened. I was like, Oh my God, like it's just nuts,

just, I like the amusement park.

Everybody's generally the same age. You don't have too much of that, like high, low stuff. Everybody was generally the same age, which made it, like another version of high school and college, but at least it was a

safer, yeah. But like these things are like terrible thing we're talking about.

I was like, terrible. These are terrible things that happen in real life.

Not of it's just bad. Yeah. Like it's. Yeah.

But now . I don't want to cut this out, but I, I watch stuff on Twitter and I watched up on Facebook and it's people get so bent out of shape over something.

Not that , nothing that anybody did to something they said. And it's just the weirdest thing. Just

wait though,

but they have way. But I literally watched the

conversation, I guess it also depends on alright, is this a person that, you know, or is this a person that you care about?

Or are we talking about like random people who don't know each other talking to each other online?

All right. Two things. I've seen the random people on Twitter. I've seen that's gross. . And then I've two people. I know, I know one of them and the other person knows the other person.

And somehow they took all I've read. I literally read with my eyes, every single word they said, took every single word out of context and got upset and offended. And then other people decided to jump in and get upset and offended. Then the person re says what they said and clarifies it. And they still choose to get offended.

And it's like, how is this even happening? They're not reading the words that the person is saying, and it's just I don't even know how can this be a thing? Like being offended as the cool new thing now? Like it's let's all just be offended. I don't know. It's weird, man.

I wouldn't say that being offended is the cool new thing. I think it's, more subconscious than that, I think we're all, I think

the past year has been incredibly taxing for everybody. Everybody's a little keyed up. Everybody's generally keyed up around election time anyway. So tack on a global pandemic, and we've all forgotten how to socialize, being like, in the same space as people and stuff.

So so much just happening online , that. It's I think it's a perfect storm for people to just blow up on tiny things,

But it's not even the things that are being said, it's the mind reading behind it. It's I'm, I know that your intention is this. So I'm going to get mad at you and then say that you're this.

And it's what just happened? This person is the kind of person that supports you. And you're like, Oh, it just, it doesn't make

sense. Offending, people barking at each other on the internet. I'm not defending that at all. ,

we can get upset, but we don't have to blurt it back out.

You know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be blurted. Like I can be upset and then I can think about it and go, okay. You know what I mean? Are maybe they were just having a bad day or whatever, or maybe I misread that wrong, , but

now culture courages us.

It encourages us to, to type it back out and put our response out there.

So that'd be upset and be offended. Like , it's weird to me. It's so strange. Am I wrong? Do you not see this happening? No.

I mean that all the time. Absolutely. Yeah.

It's becoming more and more commonplace. Like it's just, like somebody says something, they take it out of context. They infer a meeting that may or may not have been there.

And then they attack that person. And it's just crazy to me. Like it just seeing it more and more, and it's just weird. Just totally weird.

Yeah. I think we all need to take a step back and take a look at what our online presence is and , if somebody that I'm friends with on social media says something that I, disagree with or, think is silly then, I try to, take a moment and be like, and remember why I liked that person genuine.

I have genuine love for this person. And so we stopped giving each other the benefit of the doubt, I think some ways ago. And , I think we need to do a little bit more of that. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just, to me, it's just a sad state of things, it's you can't, it's like they're having the conversation and the text is on the screen, but for whatever reason, both parties are misinformed and the other party, and it's just the weirdest, like how can you not read what it says and read it?

You know what I mean? Read the words that are on the screen, but instead they're just choosing to be offended because like it's , God, I can't even, I don't have, I don't have words for it, but I just feel like there's going to be more and more of this because being a victim is the thing to do now.

Like just don't take ownership for your own wellbeing. Just blame everybody else or whatever. Like it's the weirdest way to operate. Like you can never be happy because other people are always doing things to you. It's you know what I mean? Like happiness is not on the table.

Like getting along with people of different types. It's not on the table. It's not on the table because everybody's



racist, it's just the weirdest, it's the weirdest thing. Like why can't we think about the result that we want and operate from that mode set of this mode of everything is broken and torn apart.

And it's your fault? It's just the, I don't know, man, like I maybe I'm taking it too far.

There's also there's also the complication of

all of not all there, there is real injustice out in the world. So there are people who are actual victims, right? So delineating between who, it's tough and it's all very nuanced. You know what I mean? And that's a thing that not everybody's great at anymore.



, it's just things that are like boring and complicated. You know what I mean? That's not something that like a whole lot of people are at attaching themselves to. It's a lot easier to just go to, scream. This is what will solve the problem as opposed to no, here's , here's the 150 page plan.

That's going to take five years. That's going to solve the problem. You know what I mean?

It's just, to me, it should be about being the example and not always about looking for things that are wrong. You know what I mean? I guess , the different take I have, if I'm always looking for something that's wrong, I'm going to find it everywhere.

If I'm looking for, so

What makes you think that people are always looking for something that's wrong?

That's what I'm talking about. That's how these arguments happen, where one person's literally trying to maybe even help the other person. And they're interpreting it as being attacked.

And it's this is not like I'm looking at it. And I'm like, this is not what that person it's so obvious that person did not mean it in that way at all. And because they have the filter of looking at what's wrong and being a victim or being attacked, that they can't even see that the other person meant well and was really trying to help them.

If you always have that filter on your , you will, things will never get better. They'll never get better because you don't have inside of you, the possibility that people are really trying to help each other or, make things better, that's all I'm saying. .

Yeah.

Yeah. That, that could very well be real.

That's my concern. I just see more and more of it. Like this type of thinking is becoming taught in schools and it makes me sad. It makes me sad for the future, because it's going to take a while for that to go away are at least open up to where, like you said, zoom out and see different angles.

It's going to take

awhile for people now, can I challenge you on this though? How do you know what's being taught in schools?

I've seen some quizzes and things I've been watching videos about it.

Yeah. But even if I saw I think cause context is important. But it's just, it's such a broad thing, such a broad statement that like,

all right, I'll come in with facts next time.

I'll come in with the facts.

No, . Look right. 150 page paper on just for fun for you. And I,

so Falcon a winter soldier comes out this week. You excited?

No, I canceled my Disney plus subscription.

Are you serious? Yes,

I I put the reason you canceled her Disney, plus I put,

wow. Wow. Taking a stand. Wow. Really? , you're not going to watch the next Marvel show. No, I'm going to watch

it.

You're messing with me. Come

on, man. Wow, dude, you had me going.

No, I thought about it. I really did think about it. This whole situation has really got me a little bit upset, because the facts are different than the stories the media is putting out and most people after doing the research on the topic that we're not even discussing agree with me.

You know what I mean? So it's just upsetting,

but yeah. Falcon and winter soldier.

Yeah.

It's all right. I'm sure it'll be fun. Like we're out of stuff to watch. So that's the, yeah. That's , it's something I watch not super hyped about it though.

Really?

Why is that? I , no , I don't know the stakes. I don't know what's going on.

Why it's important? I don't know. I've I think I watched the trailer. I don't remember what happened. I remember lots of things like action running and fighting and exploding things, but I don't know what the story is. It's it's not intriguing. Wanda vision to me was like, just weird.

And what is this thing? This is not something we've seen ever. So this has got to be something, whereas Falcon and winter soldier, I feel like we've seen this movie before.

Gotcha. Yeah. I'd say I'm I , like they're dynamic in, was it civil war? Yeah. Civil war, like where they were fighting Spider-Man and , giving each other a hard time throughout the movie.

I really enjoyed that. I thought the two of them had a fun dynamic. So doing some sort of buddy cup kind of vibe, with them too. I think that's fun. That's worth exploring. And then also exploring like what is the Marvel universe post captain America?



You're right. I'm sure, once I see the first episode, I'll be all in, but at this point with no knowledge of what's happening. I'm just not that intrigued,

so going in, I let go in and blink. I the last couple of years I've been real, I guess it was probably when the force awakens came around, when the force awakens came around is when I got really into , I don't want to see a single trailer.

I want to go in completely blank. So that, because I feel like so many movies where I would watch the trailer and then I'm thinking , there was this one scene that I saw in the trailer and it looked cool. And when is that gonna happen? And then it doesn't happen to the end of the movie or something like that.

It's like those little things, they take me out of it. I start thinking, I start trying to guess where things are going or what's going to happen too much. And, as evidenced by one division, like you can go down some crazy rabbit holes that probably aren't there.

So I would like to just go in blank, be surprised. So yeah, I like all of the new star Wars movies. I tried to completely avoid spoilers or trailers. So that I wouldn't see set pieces or just anything , anything too much that , yeah,

yup. For me, this one is exactly that I don't know what it is.

I'm not super interested. I hope after I've watched the first episode I'm hooked. I really hope I'm fucked, but . And if one division is any Testament, then it's, to what they can create then. Hopefully it'll be great.

Zemo is back. .

Yeah. I saw that

the villain, no, they put him in that like crazy, like rollercoaster chair in the glass box.

They put him in that thing. And then , Martin Freeman was like, You'll be in here forever a thing. And

That scene at the end of the movie where he does the monologue for what, like he's on the side of a cliff or whatever. And I always like, while that scene is going on, I imagine him like jumping off the cliff in my head.

And so I guess that, that memory stuck because that w like that would have been the rational thing for the character to do at that point, I think would be to just, screw it, but ,

that didn't happen. No, he , he listens to the voicemail from his wife one last time. And then pulls the gun out, tries to shoot himself, but then black Panther comes in and stops the bullets.

You're going to have to live with what you did. .

my memory serves me so poorly, so he did try to kill himself and . Something interfered with it. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Black Panther stuff.

I did want to talk to

PI day,

is this as a PI day? Oh God. Math. Math is hard. I did want to mention a couple of other things about cider verse. Cause I thought about it.

. My wife and I went and watched man of steel again, like not too long ago. It was a pretty good movie. . Yeah. You set up a world. That was really interesting. And yeah, it's just a shame that like his vision didn't quite pan out, and

I think you went just a little too dark with Batman versus Superman, because like on its whole man of steel to me don't get me wrong. It has that Snyder color grading kind of vibe, but yeah. Ben versus Superman took it to another level, , but at the same time, like I still enjoy the movie.

And

did you see the edit? Oh

Yeah. Oh honestly, like I saw the theatrical version in the theater and then when I got it on the Blu-ray, so the second time I watched it, I watched the director's cut and I was like, Oh, this is a lot better because really it goes into a little bit more detail about it.

Yeah. Everything actually makes sense. Yeah. You can follow the story. Yeah.

It's a little bit more sense. It's good. It's good. There's like a whole character that just is just completely edited out of the movie. Yeah, the whole story of the bullets and how Lois figures out the Lexus behind things, right?



Yeah. Made more sense. Made more sense. Instead of Lex just showing up with some crazy wacky guy, there was a little bit of context , to the thing. So like I'm secretly in the back of my mind, hoping. That this does so well that they continue with a little more bad flick because I love Ben Affleck as Batman.

I don't know why. Maybe it's just the suit he's wearing. I don't know. But I just want to see more of it. Like I want to see a Batman story, within Aflac, I don't want to see Robert Pattinson. And speaking of which you heard about this news, I came out with Robert Pattinson Riggins recently.

Nah,

there are reports of him doing naughty things with catwoman.

Okay.

On top of the Batmobile or some car or something on this, on a set piece in public, like in front of everybody. Yeah. And like weird, interesting. This guy has like just lost his marbles.

Like he just doesn't give two apps about anything. It seems like.

All right.

If the , if you thought Josh Wieden was hard to work with, like this guy sounds like it's just and you just put it in your pants for a minute so we can shoot this.

Holy crap.

Yeah. Interesting. Cause that's , that's , Kravitz that's Zoe Kravitz is playing.

. So supposedly their thing. Yeah. In real life. , before the public display, there were private displays and , yeah. Interesting. I tried to keep this PG for

your nephew, sorry.

Oh yeah. One of our, one of our solid listeners. Yeah. What's up Liam? What's up Isaac. Shout out. What's up baby. Shout out to the kids, listening to the show. Yep.

All right. Anything else on Snyder verse you got?

Like I just wanted to say that like I really liked the bat Fleck was convincing to me. And I just, I wanted to see more of that character. Like he was a little violent, obviously in the ,

the BVS.

. Wow. Why isn't that out?

Wasn't didn't shoot that movie like five years ago. Oh, wow.

They've had six directors all quit at some point. Like it's been rewritten, it's been all kinds of things. But now I think they have a good script and they have a director locked in and I believe , they're starting to film. Or they may have already started. It's really close.

It's really close. And it sounds like it's actually happening, but Billy Crudup is out. I saw that this week he a scheduling conflict. Couldn't be in the movie Billy Crudup. He played the flashes incarcerated father.

Oh

yeah. He couldn't make it scheduling conflicts.

Like he couldn't just take a day and shoot a movie.

Guess not, I guess he's filming something else. That's paying him more.

So he's not going to be in it or somebody else is going to play the fine.

Okay. I don't know if they'll recast. He looked him in as are Miller look enough alike, to where man, you're not going to strike oil twice.

Yeah. Somebody. Yeah, you could do, man. Did you see that story about the lady like deep faking a bunch of kids on this lady like did a deep fake of some videos, putting kids who were on the cheerleading team too, and then leaked these like R rated videos with these cheerleading kids' faces on them.

And then in an effort to either get her daughter onto the cheerleading team so that the coach would kick them out, elevate on the cheerleading team. Wow. Deep fix is gonna get, it's gonna get bad. Not use this for good all the time.

It's not expensive. Can anybody just drag and drop on the internet and make one?

Or do you have to pay, like, why is it like, there's like

a whole like start there? I think there is a payment thing structured. But like you get when you read an article where if you go and you sign up or whatever, they send you the Nicholas cage starter kit. So you can use it like the starter kit gives you Nicholas cage to work with, and then you can use other people as that's great.

Yeah. Maybe it's just like code on GitHub. You can just download it and anybody can get it maybe. Yeah. It's just like open source. Deep, fake. Yeah. Yeah. What a great idea. Open source.

Yeah. Yeah. Genius

too, though. That's what I'm looking at with this AI tech stuff though, is where it's getting weird too, because you can write.

Yeah. Like that's weird. And then they have the photo thing too. So you could put like a foot Nick cage in this position doing this thing and it'll generate a photo of it. That's the weird, crazy, like AI is getting weird, man. Like , you just need a, just a semi-active imagination and you can make stuff was crazy.

Yeah. What were you saying?

Oh, nothing. I was just gonna bring it back to , Snyder cut and Falcon and winter soldier. That makes sense. So the con here's the conundrum that I have this week.



Here's here's my I'm excited about , so Snyder cook comes out on Thursday, Falcon and winter.

Soldier comes out on Friday, Thursday night, the NCAA basketball tournament starts, and it is the greatest four days, four and a half days of basketball watching because it's basketball games from like noon until midnight. And and it's a lot of fun. It's like holiday tradition for the Owens is to just go nuts on watching basketball.

So I'm going to have to try to fit in a four hour justice league movie with all of this basketball watching, going on. Like why is so many things all happening on the third week of March? Get the

basketballs like a new moon or something or some kind of solar eclipse. That,

Oh, and it's also, Patrick's day is Wednesday, which is not such a whatever holiday for me. But yeah, I feel like this weekend or this week of the year, there's always like a bunch of stuff going on.

It also feels like that's normally the first like nice warm weekend. Yeah. . Spring has sprung. Spring has sprung. I played the snow shovel back in the cellar wise decision. Hoping I don't have to go get it. You have a son. I don't have to go back down there and get it.

Yeah. We got like a little outdoor know. Yeah. That's creepy. Is it scary? Oh , it's super creepy. It's super creepy. And then even creepier, there's a crawl space to get it. So the seller's probably under the kitchen, which is only probably 10 feet long, 20 feet wide, maybe 30 feet.

I don't know. I'm bad with weights and measures, but then yeah. Then it's crawl space for the rest of the house. And so if I ever have to go under there.

It's gotta be like raccoons and who knows what I, it

Oh, absolutely. Possums and just all kinds of stuff. No, thank you. And then I think there's like a, I think some birds have have made their way through the brick here into some of the attic space. So I'm going to have to go in there through the creepy tiny door.

I think you can call somebody for that. I think you should call somebody. There's a good chance. Those are bats, not birds.

Oh, that would not be fun. Yeah, I would not. Yeah. If I saw some bats, I'd be like, you know what? We'll have a symbiotic relationship here. You don't come through the drywall.

I don't go past the creepy door. I will call a guy . Y'all got a month. I'm giving you notice, given you a bat's notice. Yeah. After that I'm calling a guy.

Maybe you can smoke them out or whatever,

who knows. Before I go in there, I'm going to make a whole bunch of noise, that gets them too creepy into them to shoo out of here, and , I can't tell if they're actually in there or if they're just like on the roof, like pecking around. So I'm just going to have to put it on my headlamp and just no way check. Like I do my due diligence.

I would never, even if I own the house, there's no way. , Nope.

Call the guy for that. And I pay

yeah. Pay this mortgage.

Nope. Nope. Call a

guy. Yeah. . You have a squirrel dropped in through our like vent one time. This was probably like a year ago. Maybe. No, it was yeah. Pre pandemic, but this squirrel like dropped in through event and then just shows up , next to the HVAC.

And I'm like, what are you doing at my house? Squirrel? He's like making this high pitch squeal noise. What's happening over here. Is there a bird in my house? No, it was a squirrel. So then I trapped him under a tub and then a, and then called a guy so that he could humanely dispense him into the woods or something.





. Yeah. I was going to just slide a piece of cardboard under there, and then just like that and let them go or whatever. But my wife was like, nah, call it professional. And I was like

Yeah, you were halfway there.

He could have just did the carpet. Yeah. If you're going to go through all the trouble to get her in the tower.

. . If we were on the first floor , it would have been a much easier sell of look, I just got to get him from somewhere to there. Yeah. The door. . Yeah. The stairs were in the equation and that was where we call it a guy.

Yeah. Call a guy. I'm all for calling a guy. Yeah. I'm thinking about, I've been thinking about guys editing our videos. I've been thinking about guys like writing blog. I've been thinking about guys, come in and cleaning my house.

Like how much time am I wasting doing stuff that is not going to make me money?

Call the guy. So speaking of making money, how do you like that transition? That's good. Speaking of making money, james Cameron. Rereleased avatar for the billionth time in theaters in China this week.

So now they took in extra money and have pulled ahead of Avengers end game as the highest box office ever. Did he do it just for that? Did he do it just to get the Chinese audience refreshed on avatar? I don't know. When are these avatar movies happening?

Because he's been working on them forever. What are your thoughts?

It sounds a cash grab or something because he's been working on these films forever.

What if he's running over budget? What if he's running over budget?

For sure.

How can you have a, how can you go 10 years of production? You know what I mean? Have they even started shooting,

you can't have, because I think they've at least pretty like Sam Worthington was like a huge star when this movie came out and his star has faded big time. Zoe Saldana is now the bright shining star of this cast.

.

But the thing that I also know about Chinese movie theaters is that they have a very selective process of deciding what films go into their playlist there. The fact that he got it pushed through, that's something , in of itself. Yeah. Kudos to James , Cameron, he got a little bit of, a little bit of a money back into his , project, so he can do pre-production for another five years, .

Yeah. Or is , is he taking advantage of a situation where there isn't a whole lot of content to go into theaters right now? So he's we can put avatar in,

avatar

is make a little money. It was not a small, busy visual, yeah. Jubilee, wonderful movie. Like it is a lot of fun to look at and should be watched in theaters.

, or it's one of the few movies where I feel like watching it in theaters is preferential to watching it like on a TV in your house. So yeah, why not?

Story is very universal. It's all the, all the typical points.

It's for Ellie.

Yeah. It's it's Fern, gully. It's what's the other one. The it's , John Smith and Pocahontas spoke honest. . Yeah, space Pocahontas. And I, you can't take your eyes off of the screen. You can't.

Yeah. It's a solid movie. I'm not knocking it. I'm not saying it's crap.

I'm not saying that they're putting, Oh gosh.

We live in a world where people put out content, all the time, like there's this content. And there was a time before all this content where there were only so many movies, so films would get released in theaters on a semi-regular basis.

Like I know star Wars had a release gone with the wind had probably several release like this kind of thing was normal for a while. So it's not like it's out of the ordinary. It's just, now there's so many options and so many films that you , you don't have time to go back and, but with this pause on production and pause on, on, on society in general, we got a little space, we got a little space left there's a slot open.

I've got to fill it with something, fill it with something, it's going to work.

Yup. True. That's true. Yeah. And it is a visually stunning movie.

. I remember watching some of the behind the scenes of how they made the character. That's it's creepy.

They play on our emotions, making these characters look like dogs and cats and things like that , that the humans like, and then morphing those features into their faces so that, we have what was the word? We feel for

these familiarity.



It's not an emotional, like an emotional, yeah. Like an emotional attachment and understanding. And like we feel sorry for them. Just by looking at them , like that much thought went into the creation of this, these people. So they can't be the bad guys, even if they were,

yeah.

That's all I got on that.

Yeah. I think my initial reaction was one of c'mon James Cameron , and the more I've thought about it and the more we as we've talked it out, yeah. Sure thing, do your thing, James Cameron go for it. Why not? Why not?

I don't want them to go out of business before avatar two comes out

Could do for you. Yeah, definitely. At this point, I'm just intrigued by what, , what could two, three and four all have in store, do I think they're going to be the greatest movies ever? Do I think it's going to be the best franchise ever? No, not at all, but I'm sure it'll be really fun to look at. James Cameron does a good job at fun to look at. It was fun to look at.

Yeah, it was a better story. I think too. It was not a throwaway story and that's what I don't understand about every other Terminator movie is how do they forget about the story?

I didn't mind this, the Christian bale one. I didn't mind the Chris and bale one. I thought that one was pretty good.

I want to go back and re rewatch that one because I think it probably was good, but at the time it was a totally different format of film, that not format, but like structure of film than the first two Terminator movies, which were like running away from a thing.

Whereas that one was like, I don't know, just I don't remember, honestly, I don't even remember the movie. That's what's sad.

, Yeah. The story structure was completely different from the story structure of the other movies. Completely different. Yeah.

Basically it was a man who went into the future as opposed to somebody who going into the past. Yeah. It's you

forgot what made this thing. Awesome. I dunno. And I can see there's a place for that story. And then it just went weird and just it's like, they forgot what made Terminator good.

. They remembered for a minute when they did that show. What was the show? The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Did you see that?

Oh, yay. I watched one or two episodes and I remember it being good, but it was on, at a time where I didn't where I had a lot going on with work or school or something , so good.

Oh man. Yeah.

If there's a way to go back and watch it, do it because I was just like, that was the thing where every week I was like, what are they going to do next? It's just intense, like they, they continue the same theme of being chased by the terminators. And John Connor being a little older, like being the one to start outwitting them and stuff like that , it was a really great , continuation of that story.

And , it's just, they were like, Oh no, we're going to cancel this. What people are watching it. It's good. We should probably cancel it. It doesn't make any sense.

Cause it, I think because it undermined the next term in their movie or something like,

Yeah. Cause then that third one came out with a fourth one or whatever it was to , Nick, whatever his name was. Claire Danes. .

, yeah. That was the movie that undermined Terminator.

Not , not the Sarah Connor throttled.

. I

remember it was sad, man. It was sad because they, it was amazing. Cause all that stuff, all those effects we saw in T2 the, at the time they were revolutionary, but it had been honed. So it had been so long that now that those effects and stuff were like so affordable and easy to do.

So they were doing them in the show just every week in a TV show. Like you would see that at grandchild, so that was really cool. Yeah.

Yeah, so let's talk about this. This is what I've been going deep on this week.

I have never seen the Twilight films ever. I was aware of them. Obviously I worked at a bookstore, and I'm generally aware of most movies coming out, so I knew what it was. Okay.

Wait, what

books or did you? I worked at Barnes and noble at the summit from Oh two to Oh five.

And then I worked at borders on fourth street in Oh six Oh seven, maybe even Oh eight.

Yeah. . That's cool. I got Barnes and noble is like my favorite bookstore to just go in and kill time for no reason. I always, when I, like, when I had nowhere to go and I didn't want to go home, like I would just go to the bookstore , and just pick up books and start reading.

. Get some coffee, do the . Yeah.

.

. That was my winter job. When I was still seasonal and then when I became full-time at the cane this is how crazy I was. I would take vacation days in the winter time.

So I would take off. Cause there's not a whole lot going on in the music parks. . Like we would just bank all of these vacation days throughout the summer. Cause it's just so hard to take them. And then, so I would just take off every Friday in November and then I would work at borders on Fridays, Saturdays, and then Monday nights.

Oh , yeah, so I was making crazy money. And I basically , I would use that to fund Christmas stuff.

Yeah. For a 20 year old or 22 or whatever. Yeah. How old were you? Yeah, I

was like 25 20 , yeah, it was probably like 23, 24, 25, somewhere around there. That's great.

Yeah I remember the Twilight books coming out. I remember that being like a absolute teen sensation and then making the first movie and putting Robert Pattinson in it and him becoming a big freaking deal. Because up until that point, he was Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter.

Yeah. I never saw the first one. And didn't really think that was something that I needed at the time. It

was like, it was common knowledge at the time for both of us, that these were vampires that could go in the sunlight and sparkle. Yeah. And for us growing up with the types Bram Stoker's and , what was the other girl that had those books, those giant thick books of the interview with

the vampire.

Yeah.

So we had this idea of vampires that's just super dark and gnarly and you can't go in the sun. And the idea that vampires could even go in the sun for five seconds was like, eh, no, right now I'm not even gonna look at that. Yeah. That's how I felt about it. I was like, I'm not even gonna, I can't.

Yeah.

But for whatever reason. Yeah. Yeah. I think working at the bookstore, but because let's be honest, I worked in the music and DVDs part of the bookstore. Like I was the guy, I was always in the music session , handing out CDs or DVDs to people. So that's primarily where I worked, but so the booksellers were not fans of these books.

The booksellers were basically like, as opposed to Harry Potter. Every bookseller at Barnes and noble and borders for the most part was like, these are great. And there are a lot of fun with the Twilight books. It was like they were looked down on. So I think that also influenced me to the point where I was like, yeah, I don't need this in my life.

And honestly, like I just assumed that it would just be on HBO one day and I would watch it, or it would be on TBS and I would watch it then, but yeah, like they really do they play around with all of the normal vampire lore that we all know and they throw half of it away, no, no dagger, no stakes through the heart. That's not a thing they're like, Nope, best way to kill a vampire is to rip its head off and then burn it. That seems a little violent, a nice, Buffy the vampire Slayer taught us anything, a nice, table, leg, or chair, leg through the heart, and then you're golden.

And they have like weird like porcelain kind of skin. Yeah. And it's diamond D so then they shimmer in the sunlight , which, makes sense for the movie taking place in like Portland, Oregon, or, in the upper. Upper Northwest , cause it's cloudy all the time. But then so for this first movie, it's like almost all of this, like these like blue tones, because they really like really hammer in the idea of no, it's always hazy.

And then if it's, if there is a sunny day, then all of these vampires stay home from school that day. Which is like big red flag. I think it's justified of Oh, the parents want to take them out, like hiking and do outdoorsy stuff when it's nice out. So they let them skip school on those days.

Yeah. That's another problem. Like the premise of the show is like you got a hundred year old vampire, but no I'm going to go to high school in high school. Like I remember high school and I'm pretty sure I don't want to go back. That's not a thing

that is occurring in my mind. It's like what? He's like a hundred something years old and he's basically.

Doing junior year, senior year, freshmen, sophomore year of college, and then moving to another town and doing those four years again. And they just all do that over and over again for years and

years. . Cause he's tactically. Yeah. He's technically, . He's technically a keyword.

Yeah. Yeah. He's technically one of those.

Oh yeah. Oh, he's creepy. He's a creepy old man. She's 17, man. Can't be doing that. Come on. Yeah,

but if you're okay, but if you're a hundred, you're a hundred and you look like that with your porcelain skin, you can get away with that.



Dude. If you're a hundred, then you just find another vampire is also roughly the same deal as do you, should, you should have learned your last reign on some 17 year olds.

Yeah. Can you learned your lesson? Do you probably dated somebody? They got old and it was sad. So at that point, you're going to, you're going to date another vampire.

You're not gonna, you're not gonna go through that grief again. Yeah. Why would you do that to yourself over and over? Yeah. What's wrong with this guy? All of it is sick. Like all of it is socially and mentally sick that I can't even.

Look the more you get into it, like there is some , there's definitely like some abusive relationship undertones here.

Like this dude's way too involved in her life way too. Like protective. Like it's a little, it's a little, much, a little much.

Yeah. Psycho is a fair word to use here, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's some reason he's the hero.

Why is he the hero? Because,

Honestly I think she's the hero.

I think he's like she's definitely the protagonist, like it's definitely of, as far as the movies go they're about her.

He's not a bad guy

somehow. No, he's not a bad guy. He is not the antagonist that's for sure. And they spend, I would say easily 20% of the movies just staring at each other.

These movies are all about two hours and 15 minutes long to 18, somewhere around there. They would be a tight 90, just like a tight 90 minutes. If they cut out all of the staring. It's

a staring shot in slow motion, like . Yeah. Panning around.

Yeah. Yeah. Like awkward. Like I'm about to start a sentence, but then I have to think about it.

And then she reacts to him almost starting a sentence, so then she's start and then she moves, but then she's staring and then she plays with her hair for a second and he takes a second to take that in,

ah, few this to

be young again, that's the movie. And if you cut that out, man, like I had this moment during the first movie where I turned to my wife and I was like, this is a lot easier if you just think that if, instead of him being a vampire, you say he had, he's like neurodiverse in some way, like he's got Asperger's or he's on the autism spectrum, because they're just like awkwardly talking to each other.

And there's all these other high school kids around who are like doing their thing and like having fun and having , having social, like having all these sort of like them to just don't quite get all the facial cues and the social cues. So it's it's, they're highly functioning, maybe they're just they're just on the spectrum and that's great.

But , so if you overlay that on the first movie, it's it's two, it's like him being like, Hey, you're a little weird socially. I'm a little weird socially. Let's be okay together, socially awkward. But if you give it that conceit it's a much more fun movie.

You can say that. And it makes sense. But in the context of being a vampire and being a hundred years old, you should have at some point accrued more and more wisdom and become more and more. Yeah. That

would make you more awkward. Would that make you more awkward? Plus like at any point in time, the cloud, like weather change, it is weather changes all the time.

I'm just going to be real here. You

could start off the day cloudy and then the sun could come out and then everybody knows you're a sparkly diamond vampire. And how do you not walk around with that worry all the time. In the second or third movie, they go to Florida together. They get on a plane and go to Jacksonville.

So you had to get a night flight. You have to have two, this does not get explained by the way, you have to get a night flight. All right. Because how are you going to get from the plane to the car without the entire world being like, what is that? And then how do you get from the car to her mom's place where they're staying without somebody being like, Hey, why do you sparkle?

None of that gets explained. It's just him sitting in doors while Bella and her mom are hanging out outside. And it's just like, how did you even let this? How did you think this was going to go? Yeah. Oh , so do you guys want to run out to the hot dog stand real quick?

No. I'm just gonna stay inside and play with my phone. That's a terrible vacation, bro. It's a terrible vacation. You're a bad vacation guest. You're a bad house guest. Cause he's nuts. Just don't want to do anything. He also whispers throughout the whole, like he's talked at a higher decimal than I'm talking right now.

He's talked at this decimal three minutes at a four movies and it was the part where she was almost dying. That's it? Everything else is

wow. How

was it's been a ride, man, watching those movies.

It makes you wonder on Showtime, but it makes you wonder why was this such a big thing? Is it, , why did people

wish

fulfillment? But yeah, like , why was it so accepted? Like just , Hey. Yeah. Forget about all these logical things that make no sense.

I just want to be taken by a vampire, like it's setting up some kind of, it's setting up some kind of demented relationship, a structure for young girls. Like they're gonna go

into a relationship. Can plant some seeds that don't need to be don't need to be planted. No, that's for sure. I haven't read the book so I can't speak to it exactly.

But from what I've seen of the movies , I would not let a 13 year old read this. No. I would be like, no, not until you're like 30 and you have a strong sense of who you are as a person,

but you is that the problem is yeah, you don't have that discernment to realize, Oh, this guy is a creep.

You know what I mean? To us, it's it's obvious , okay, this is just weird, but did she at any, didn't Bella at some point go, Hey, this is weird. A hundred year old dude is into me. Did that, was that, was there a paragraph about that? Yeah, because I think,

I don't know if there is, but the movies go it's it's it feels like such a , such a like elemental, like attraction between the two of them that, that , all logic be damned.

Hence the stereo.

Yeah. Okay. Oh gosh. The staring all of the sudden,

I don't want to say can't happen, but like bruh, I don't know. I don't really, I don't even have words.

So here's the other glaring fallacy of these movies. So vampires werewolves come into play a lot of werewolves.

Yeah, of course. There's, it's , there's a lot of supernatural stuff. The thing that I had to comment about it took me out of it. The thing that like really just was just seemed really disingenuous to me is when they're in school, all of the other kids are super jazzed about learning.

They are just like, like all the kids are like, they go on a field trip to this like farm and everybody's like super happy and running around and they're just like, we're learning. And they're like getting their hands dirty and working like all this stuff or whatever. Whoever, whoever wrote that has not hung out with teenagers on a field trip.



The irony of that is I feel like learning is really important and cool now that I'm old, but he definitely in high school, not a priority at all.

No. Fourth or fifth on the priority list.

Exactly. That's a, can I pass the test?

She's the new girl in town and the whole school is Hey, welcome new girl.

Would you like to be friends with us? What never had, excuse me. No, that's useless. Yeah. Nelson gets greeted. You

sit in the corner.

Yeah. You get one friend and it's the outcast and they will the friend you, and that will create a bond. And then maybe you can work your way up. Like you got the AA team and a Kendrick and the gang shown up being like, Hey, what's up?

We don't get new people much. So do you want to be our friends? Not a chance. Snags the hot vampire guy. Who's mysterious. Of course. Absolutely. Do you think there would be some happiness going

on? Do you think this series was sponsored by the board of education? Like school is cool. You know what I mean?

Like

Madam, maybe, but the other thing is all of their staring and, awkward conversations are happening during class. You got a class full of, you got 25 students and two of them aren't paying attention and we're focusing on the two that aren't paying attention.

Although there is a biology scene where it shows that they at least are paying attention enough to know, what they're looking at when they look through the microscope at various yeah. Biological things. So they're not bad students.

It's hard. It's very hard for me to get emotionally invested in this at all.

Like I tried, I think I watched the first movie with my wife and I was like, I can't like I don't get it. Yeah. It's just

Somewhere about two thirds of the way through movie too, I was like I'm invested in the story. Just because I've powered through , I would like to know what happens with all of these characters now.

Especially like what's going to happen with all these characters. That's going to necessitate three more movies. And you can definitely tell that, like these were written as books, these were written as books would a silly sentence to say , that you could tell them these were not just written films.

This comes from a book. So like the source material is a book. So it has that That kind of, there's a larger story at play. That's going to take place over multiple books, but we're only focusing on this tiny other story for the purposes of this movie.

Yeah. It's like you, I think maybe the books can explain what they're thinking during all of those weird staring moments, whereas, so you get the context, so maybe there is more context in the book, to be fair.

Yeah, but still man, just can't I can't, I don't know. Yeah. Like just thinking about it hurts my head so much, like the logic of it and the fact that this was the biggest thing ever was like,

it was such a big deal. And now it , nobody really talks about these movies

anymore. Is it like one of those things where we were like, like a spell was cast over people and it's they thought it was amazing because it's just such an interesting concept.

Oh, a vampire in high school, that glows did, is that what happened? And then later, like people grew up and go, yeah, that story is ma is that what I

don't know? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it was just like one of those things where it, it hit and it hit all everybody who was, at the right age and the right time.

Yeah. I had a step something, step cousin step, a family member. I have a family member who at the time she was younger, she's younger than me. And so when all of this was coming out, she was really into it. And in retrospect, it's Oh my gosh, she was 12 or whatever, like that's

man, I hope you don't think this is how relationships

work. She's God bless her heart. But I know that she's not in a great relationship or she hadn't been in great relationships since then, and , yeah, it would be a shame if , any of that had to do with this. But yeah, those are hard. I think things are probably getting better for her, but yeah.

Good. She's this is what you have to start with. It's not a, it's not a solid foundation for how things actually happen or work, like having conversations through staring is not the way to evolve your relationship. Like I have conversations and I have to have conversations and then I have to have conversations about those conversations to figure out what was actually meant or said because , that's how hard communication can be, and then to just the hard stuff, it's just, it's hard stuff in for it from a glance or a stare.

Nah, nah, man.

Yeah. Got, Oh. And then she's, she's getting married at 18, which, Hey, to each their own, everybody's got a different journey, but like her dad in this movie, you feel are in all these movies you feel for this guy. And I don't know what happens. I don't know what happens in the last movie, but I hope there's a real , Hey Charlie, we put you through the ringer man, but it's going to be okay.

I really hope there's a, , Hey, remember that time we Oh, dang it. I said whatever. I just said sounded like, Hey Siri and Siri just came up. So you just came up because I said it again, series just popping in and being like, what'd you need, I got you. How can I

be of service?

I need to enunciate when I say, sorry.

Yeah. What is the say? Hey Charlie. Sorry. No, that didn't pull up.

Since we have Siri here asked Siri what she thinks of Twilight films,

our books. Hey Siri are the, Hey Siri are the Twilight movies. Good.

Oh, it's just showing me that Twilight movies. Oh. But it's giving me their rotten tomatoes scores. 49%, 48%, 49%, 25%. 28. Wow.

That's

terrible. John part one and new moon are not the favorites in the film series one.

I don't even have words. It must be terrible.

They're fine. They're fine. Like here's the thing, I don't think I've ever seen a bad movie. I like watching movies, are they like great stories with great writing and like the cinematography and the first movie is very good.

Like the director of the first movie, it made some like really strong choices and I dug those choices. But the subsequent directors shied away from that and that's too bad. But



So yeah , yeah, it has been a worthwhile adventure to watch, Four out of these five movies so far.

But I certainly won't ever sit down and be like, Oh, you know what? I want to watch tonight. Let's watch the third Twilight movie. That's never gonna happen. Whereas I could put the matrix on right now.

Yeah. We could do the matrix we could do. We could do interview with a vampire, like I could do that again.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a little dark. Now, if you had your choice to where you could be a sparkly vampire who lives forever. If you drink human blood, you get a red reddish kind of glow to your eyes. But if you drink just like animal blood, then you get more of a yellowy kind of a golden Amber vibe. What if you

drink?

What if you drink vegetable blood?

I don't, that's not a thing. Green

juice get that. Could you get green eyes?

I had doubtful.

It's not a vegan diet cease to exist.

Yeah, no. Yeah. You also don't sleep. You don't sleep so you don't study, you don't sleep.

Maybe that's why maybe that's why it has so many problems, social problems, like not sleeping can make you crazy.

So he's just never sleeping, so he's not resetting, he's not integrating all that data, so yeah. Maybe that's what it is. He just needs to take a nap, vampire nap. I thought they slept during the day.

No, the one that's other vampire that's Oh, these

are like 24, seven sparkly vampires.

Yeah, they are. They're constantly, always awake. So would you rather be a sparkly vampire who doesn't sleep can go outside during the daytime, but generally you want to stay away from the sun or would you rather be at nighttime? Oh, and I don't think these guys can fly and I don't think they can change it in the bats.

Rather, but they can run really fast and making they're also incredibly strong, so we're run really fast, incredibly strong. So would you rather do that or would you rather be a, I can fly turn myself into a bat, but I got to sleep during the day. And if I go into the sunlight, I'm going to burn up.

Which one would you rather be?

I've been sunburned so bad that my head basically turned into a tomato before. So yeah, I'm probably going to have to go with sparkly vampire just based on like my laziness and, practicality sense. But ,

yeah, I think I would be sparkly vampire as well. I just, something about being burned by the sun, just

not a great, right.

So what did you watch this week?

Oh, what did I watch?

I already know. I just have to ask.

Yeah, no, I need the prompting. , yeah. A little a Superman and Lois action and get the,

This is on the CW, correct?

Yeah,

we got a hold of her thing going on here. , I'm looking

them up. Tyler hotline. Yeah.

In Corona, California.

Wow. He played infield for Arizona state for their college world series team.

I'm not even going to mention it. What we got this Superman and this lowest.

Yep.

I don't want to speak. Wow. I don't want to spoil too much for you, but they're obviously older. They're obviously older. Okay. And this Lois she's been around the block a few times. So she's got skeleton with a a chip on her shoulder, which we haven't, I don't think we've ever seen that side of Lois before.

Like where she's she's not even super likable at the beginning. Like it, it takes a little bit for her personality to grow on you. Okay. Yeah. But it did , that was very long.

Oh God. Why can't I think of her name Margo?

No, that Amy

Adams, , no, the Christopher Reeve movies.

Oh God, I don't know. Okay. I don't remember the Christopher w was she pretty hard ass in the CRISPR.

Oh, yeah, she was hardcore man. Like she was like, go get her like reporter going to get the story. And it was also like, just a, Hey, go get me a coffee, like that kind of a deal.

Yeah.

So you're getting a little bit of a return, a returned to form of the lowest from that then as opposed to

a soft fitter that's her name? Yeah,

because I feel like the lowest as we've had recently have been softer or softened, the Teri Hatcher, the Amy Adams, all those seat, she had a little more of the reporter vibe going

on.

Director's cut. And the director's cut. She's pretty hardcore, she's getting down to the bottom of things and man of steel, she's kinda yeah. Middle.

Yeah. It's actually very, just not offensive not to anything one way or the other. Whereas this one seems like she's very like very headstrong reporter type and a mom.

And that is the spin that this show goes on. They got two kids. That's

interesting. Yeah. Two, two kids. They super,

are they super, are they that's the question we don't know yet.

We don't know what an interesting way to tackle this show.

Yeah. So it's a whole different take. So other thing.

That's fun. The world doesn't know he's Clark Kent, right? No. And

his kids don't even know

what,

yeah. I feel like his face is, has more like his face is very distinct. Like it should be obvious, I feel like previous Superman's were just a run of the mill white guy that you would confuse with another run in the middle of white guy.

But like he has a, this guy has a very distinct space and distinct

features. So Henry Cavill was, is I feel like he's super distinct. Anybody who doesn't think that guy is also Superman is especially working in a newsroom where everybody's a reporter come on, man. Walks in

and he's just, they're all

terrible

reporters.

Yeah. He's this giant beast

of a man. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now Christopher Reeve did a great Clark Kent , and Brandon Ralph Brandon, Ralph probably did a better Clark camp. They needed a Superman his

did you hear about us come back in the, they did the Brandon Ralph Superman and the and the

CW crossover event.

Yeah. Yeah. That's cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't see it. Cause , at the time my cable provider was feuding with the CW. So there was like , there was like a two month period of time where we didn't get CW. And honestly, like I wasn't ever invested in the CW shows except for Supergirl. When it first came out, we watched that , the first season on CBS we watched and then we watched the second season on the CW.

And then I think we gave up after the second season, we

had the opposite experience. We got invested in arrow and the arrow verse. And then about the time flash came out, maybe the season before that it was like, may like we weren't excited about it. And then, yeah, flash, we watched the first couple of episodes.

It was really good. And I don't know why we didn't finish watching it. I think it was because they were starting to like branch off into, I don't even know why we just stopped watching. Like we didn't even finish the first season, but like I know that show is pretty good, I don't know why we didn't get back to it.

But yeah, we just stopped. Yeah. It just became too much because there's so many, yeah, there was just so many shows spinning out. I was like, I can't, I'm not going to watch every single episode of every

one watch this plus that plus legends of tomorrow plus black lightning plus Supergirl. And then, yeah, there's just a lot going on.

Yeah. Yeah.

Which is cool that we have that much content. In that universe. That's awesome. And this is technically still in the same universe, from what I know, I understand. Like he played Superman and Supergirl. Yeah. Yeah. So we're getting some continuity, which is great. But yeah. I dunno, man. I dunno, that's it.

I didn't want to go any further, farther than that. Like this show has gotten

maybe one episode. There's only one episode right now.

Yeah. There's one episode and it's got the most views of any show and awhile. I don't remember what the statistics are, but it's a lot a Superman and Lois statistics, Lois Lois.

It's something really ridiculous. As of yet March 5th, it was three point 25, 3.25 million viewers. And it's only, it's been out for another week and a half since then. So it's going to be close to 4 million probably. So I don't know, what's taking them so long with putting the next episode out, but I have a feeling they didn't expect it to be blow up like this.

It's they forgot. It's like that. They forgot Superman was their biggest character, and they forgot, like it's if they made a Batman or Superman show is going to blow up, it's I don't know why, like one plus one never equal to for them. I don't know if they just wanted their other characters to do better or what, but like it's really blown up.

And ,

it also, might've been a thing where the DC Warner brothers, people were like, look, y'all can do whatever you want. Just don't touch Batman or Superman , on the TV shows because we're reserving them for the movies, same thing with wonder woman. But then as people, as, audiences get more familiar with the idea of separate concurrently, running universes, yeah. Bringing him in isn't that big of a deal. And if they're going to explore multiverses and flashpoint anyway, then, having a couple of different Superman around, can't be that big of a deal. And you've already tested it with the CW shows, having, crisis on infinite or it's, bringing Brandon Ralph back in.



I didn't see that event. I'm thinking about going back and watching it. It didn't he play the Adam in arrow. Wasn't Brandon Ralph already yet.

TC character. Yeah, he was already on he's. He's been on legends of tomorrow since that shows arted. Yeah. So yeah, he's been in there.

So he was only Superman for that one episode or those two episodes. And I don't think they had him interact and he played an older version of himself too. He was like an older look, a little bit of gray on the side. Yeah. I really need to see that.

So I pulled up Tyler hock Caughlin Hey, Hicklin whatever this guy's name is, he turns down the role of Emmett Colin in the Twilight films. Oh, that I don't, I couldn't tell you who Emmett is.

I don't know. Yeah. Is this the guy? This is the new Superman Tyler. Yep. Yeah, no, he does a great job.

I'm, I was really impressed, with both of these, like all of the acting, like all of the storytelling. I didn't have much, the only thing that was a little crammed in is like for convenience sake, like Louis's dad is a general in the military, so like he can just talk to Superman, it's like a convenient.

A relationship that I had

I do remember that being a S that was already established in super girl,

like that's a normal, it was a general, was that also established in , this Snyder versus okay. Yeah, but it just, yeah, it just feels like an awfully convenient relationship to have, but it's nice.

So you can, they can go between the two facets. They can go between Superman being Superman and Superman being dad relatively quickly using that device of her father, so that, that's cool. I serve, it serves a purpose and , yeah, but that was the only thing was, it was a little bit jarring, but it makes total sense if you're going to have to tell the story , and go back and forth between those things to have a device that you can switch easily.

Yeah.

Yeah. And having a handful of people that he could talk to as Superman other than just Lois.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that's cool. Yeah man, I just, I really enjoyed it like me and my wife, we keep checking to see when the next episode is coming out and they kept pushing the date back.

Like it was supposed to come out on the 13th and then they pushed it back to the 18th or something. It's really strange, but I really don't think they expected it to be this good or do this well. It really , it's really blown up and I think maybe Warner brothers is like, Whoa, what's going on here?

We knew we'd do good, it's doing great. It's been really great. People are really latching onto this. And it even has some of the Krypton story. Like they, they got it all in there. They got the Krypton story in there. They got all kinds of stuff and yeah, they, it's it's almost a movie.

I think the first episode was like an hour and a half or something like it's really a lot. And , so it's telling, and it's getting it all in there and telling a whole new story at the same time. Yeah man, you gotta watch it. You gotta watch it. And two is Oh yeah, I'll check it out. It's kinda drama.

Ye a little bit to the high school drama, the kids and stuff, so it's got that CW vibe a little bit.

But it's definitely coming in, in high school. Yeah. So the kids are older. Oh, wow. Yeah. I thought they were going to be like little kids. No,

it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing.

I'll check it out. It's it's perfect drama. It's really perfect drama. It's like, how can we make Superman? Interesting. I'll give them to kids, but I'm in high school, like that's a different, that's a different take, not one I would've thought would even exist. It's definitely.

Definitely fun. And there is a villain as well. And , I can't wait. I really am. I'm like , how do I wait? Can I watch the next episode? I'll keep refreshing my S my CW thing, man.

Come on. Nice.

Yeah.

If you're, if you got a minute and you want to read up on the Taylor Swift situation , go to the, is this entertainment.com and you can read, Jacob's take on what's going on with Taylor Swift rerecording her first five albums.

Yeah. It's a quick blurb. It's not too much. It's not too heavy.

I don't think, I hope it's factual. It's not, yeah, you don't have to read it, but it's informative.

It's informative. Give it a click. Why not? Why not? Yeah. Also while you're on the computer, Hey, give us a share the podcast with a friend. Maybe even throw out a comment like Sharon comment, please.

Why not? Do all the things podcasts.

Yeah. At this point, I'm just doing it. It's this podcast. It's just for me and you right now at this point. And it's

just, this is me in Utah. No, our week our it's our weekly check-in maybe somebody is watching something. Maybe somebody is listening to something who

knows if somebody yeah.

If somebody is listening, we appreciate you. Thank you for listening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It means a lot to us. Do you want to do,

we'll be here. We'll be here next week. Anyway. Yeah. We'll be here anyway.

Yeah. It's something happened on Twitter. Something happened on, Oh, we made a thing of the animation.

That was fun. Oh yeah. That was fun. Yeah. Follow us on Twitter. You can see the little animated thing,

the rocks snippet, a snippet of our last show and Jacob put a cool animation to it.

Yeah, that was fun. I didn't even know. I could do that.

Yeah. It's wild.







Yeah, this is a lot of fun. We have,

all kinds of stuff. Yeah. , we had a lot to talk about. If you have a question too, you have to hit us up on , on the Twitters. Is this ENT pod , at, is this pod? I can't even say that. ENT pod.

Yeah. Hit us up over there. Ask us a question, ask us. I didn't make up. I went the whole episode without me

without making up a new word. Good job. Got a

new one. Good job.

Ask us, just go ahead and ask us, ask the question. Do you want to be on the show? Shoot us a message. Yeah. Do you have an idea?

Do you want to talk about something entertaining question Mark. Let us know. There's the topic of, is there a movie or an album or a TV special that you would like us to cover? Hit us up.

Yeah. And thank you Ben until next time. 📍 and so next time

thank you Jacob. Bye

bye.

Nice.

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